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Stayers Hurdle 2020

Rightly / wrongly a race that if PP anywhere near best wins so switched off regarding it .

I’ve busied myself getting monies running on to PP tho :highly_amused:
 
Humble Pie said:
Rightly / wrongly a race that if PP anywhere near best wins so switched off regarding it .

I’ve busied myself getting monies running on to PP tho :highly_amused:
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At his very best he probably does, but I'm always inclined to try and get one beat that's always been short..

I think the level of form that paisley park has ran to, is readily achievable by ITCF. But given higher competition PP may pull out more.

I wouldnt be surprised if ITCF beats him in the long walk. Albeit the distance is probably in PP favour. rightly or wrongly i think ITCF provides a sterner test than he had in the stayers, or with thistlecrack last time out.
 
Scooby91 said:
At his very best he probably does, but I'm always inclined to try and get one beat that's always been short..

I think the level of form that paisley park has ran to, is readily achievable by ITCF. But given higher competition PP may pull out more.

I wouldnt be surprised if ITCF beats him in the long walk. Albeit the distance is probably in PP favour. rightly or wrongly i think ITCF provides a sterner test than he had in the stayers, or with thistlecrack last time out.
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+ he doesn't go now. Hoping it's not a setback and Leop's the plan.
 
Scooby91 said:
At his very best he probably does, but I'm always inclined to try and get one beat that's always been short..

I think the level of form that paisley park has ran to, is readily achievable by ITCF. But given higher competition PP may pull out more.

I wouldnt be surprised if ITCF beats him in the long walk. Albeit the distance is probably in PP favour. rightly or wrongly i think ITCF provides a sterner test than he had in the stayers, or with thistlecrack last time out.
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ITCF I’ve included in ew multiples as I have a lot of monies running onto PP
Don’t think they’ve got to the bottom of PP
Had a small interest in Eglantine DS as Willie said out n out stayer
 
Humble Pie said:
ITCF I’ve included in ew multiples as I have a lot of monies running onto PP
Don’t think they’ve got to the bottom of PP
Had a small interest in Eglantine DS as Willie said out n out stayer
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Like that a lot- put it up a while ago, but haven't got involved yet.
 
Scooby91 said:
Are there any prices around for if the cap fits to do the double.
Marsh hurdle and stayers?
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Racing .t.v ' just now. I.t.f.c. not going for the marsh hdl scooby.
 
jack1092 said:
+ he doesn't go now. Hoping it's not a setback and Leop's the plan.
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harry fry said he's fine and ireland is a possibility . a bit too soon after his last run - racing tv. just now Jack.
 
Yep- the worry is a week isn't enough and they head to the Cleeve as Fry alluded to in the link.

IMO, he's no 8s or 6s shot for Leop if he shows up.
 
jack1092 said:
Yep- the worry is a week isn't enough and they head to the Cleeve as Fry alluded to in the link.

IMO, he's no 8s or 6s shot for Leop if he shows up.
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"He is entered in Leopardstown the following Saturday. If he's not ready for that we'll just have to wait for the Cleeve" It will be 5 weeks rather than 4 weeks with no Paisley Park in opposition. If he does run in Leopardstown he would be vying for fav. wit BDD at about 2/1. I will chance it
 
Pendil said:
"He is entered in Leopardstown the following Saturday. If he's not ready for that we'll just have to wait for the Cleeve" It will be 5 weeks rather than 4 weeks with no Paisley Park in opposition. If he does run in Leopardstown he would be vying for fav. wit BDD at about 2/1. I will chance it
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Took a bit of 8s myself- I agree if he shows up he’s half the price at least. Has to be a worry he won’t but of the prices over Xmas he’s the only one that’s caught my eye since they opened
 
Looking at this market, I still think Emitom is still a pretty decent bet at 20/1.

Most at the head of the market don’t look like turning up other than pp and itcf.

Understand he has a lot to do before being talked a proper contender but is probably a bit forgotten because he has had a setback. Connections know how to win this as well, clearly horse has plenty of ability.

Hopefully he’ll step up on his return when in open company, but 3 length defeat to champ isn’t looking too bad form.

I see pp as one of the bankers at present but just in case, Emitom is worth a punt.
 
Craigy14 said:
Looking at this market, I still think Emitom is still a pretty decent bet at 20/1.

Most at the head of the market don’t look like turning up other than pp and itcf.

Understand he has a lot to do before being talked a proper contender but is probably a bit forgotten because he has had a setback. Connections know how to win this as well, clearly horse has plenty of ability.

Hopefully he’ll step up on his return when in open company, but 3 length defeat to champ isn’t looking too bad form.

I see pp as one of the bankers at present but just in case, Emitom is worth a punt.
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Agree. 2 days ago WG said ‘Emitom is on course for 1st Jan. Cheltenham’
 
Have B365 gone NRNB?? Seem to have shortened all favs up. PP @ 11/8, Envoi 7/4, Tiger 5/4, Benie 13/8 , champ 11/4, Dolcita 9/2!!!???
 
Lobos said:
Have B365 gone NRNB?? Seem to have shortened all favs up. PP @ 11/8, Envoi 7/4, Tiger 5/4, Benie 13/8 , champ 11/4, Dolcita 9/2!!!???
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Ferny Hollow also cut to 10/1 for the bumper too.
 
Lobos said:
Have B365 gone NRNB?? Seem to have shortened all favs up. PP @ 11/8, Envoi 7/4, Tiger 5/4, Benie 13/8 , champ 11/4, Dolcita 9/2!!!???
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Think their adjusting things for when they take a massive hit in the Al Bartlett !!.:highly_amused:
 
In light of what’s been said about Thomas derby, does anyone fancy him for this?....
 
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