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Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

Headline only . , but phillip Hobb's saying Ryanair chase is the main aim for Defi du seuil > R.post.
 
Anyone know if JOB has said anything about plans for Rhinestone?
 
Saw Henderson was talking up one of his Gorgeous looking mares again. My Whirlwind.
Just a heads up from an antepost betting perspective.
I think it's time we acknowledged that his mares are not betting propositions for the novice hurdle races at the festival.
And his love for them may be more down to bestiality.
As long as it's only looking Nicky.
 
quevega said:
Saw Henderson was talking up one of his Gorgeous looking mares again. My Whirlwind.
Just a heads up from an antepost betting perspective.
I think it's time we acknowledged that his mares are not betting propositions for the novice hurdle races at the festival.
And his love for them may be more down to bestiality.
As long as it's only looking Nicky.
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Not sure id agree with this backed, Epatante at 20/1 last year and she went off 15/8 also backed Apples Shak at 40/1 in Triumph who wend off 6/5. I would say these are amazing betting opportunities. The fact that they didnt win was frustrating but I wish there was more opportunities like that one. And ill defo be backing My Whirlwind, she was bought for a fortune on the back of a high class ptp win. Ive had some of the 25/1 on him. I accept that laying off isnt for everyone but these sorts are exactly the types i want to be getting involved with.
 
At this stage your looking for horses who will be a lot shorter on the day. If a Henderson trained JP McManus owned mare comes out and bolts up first time out she’s instantly going to be slashed for the Mares Novice Hurdle
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I’m hoping there is something regarding Chantry House and Shishkin. I really like both but have them as Ballymore types with a slight preference for Chantry House at present. May have to buy the RP for the first time in years!
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I saw the Racing post headlines J.M. , and looked up Shiskin on sky horse profiles.
Probably wrong , but appears to be the same owner for Melon , who ran in the Supreme N.hdl.
so backed shiskin for that race today.
 
BigChaang said:
I saw the Racing post headlines J.M. , and looked up Shiskin on sky horse profiles.
Probably wrong , but appears to be the same owner for Melon , who ran in the Supreme N.hdl.
so backed shiskin for that race today.
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Same owner as Melon and Al Boum Photo. My initial instinct at the back end of last season was Shishkin for the Ballymore, primarily on breeding.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Same owner as Melon and Al Boum Photo. My initial instinct at the back end of last season was Shishkin for the Ballymore, primarily on breeding.
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Yeah , More than likely you are right . Like i said , just thought about the Melon/supreme thing .
 
BigChaang said:
Yeah , More than likely you are right . Like i said , just thought about the Melon/supreme thing .
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No more than an educated guess on my part so I could be wrong. Hendo always starts them over 2 miles so it will take a few runs to know where he’s likely to be heading. By then the price will have gone though.
 
Yes , I will leave it be for now , Maybe add Ballymore if it look's the most likely later on.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I’m hoping there is something regarding Chantry House and Shishkin. I really like both but have them as Ballymore types with a slight preference for Chantry House at present. May have to buy the RP for the first time in years!
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Chantry House gets a positive mention and a nudge toward Ballymore being the option in the book I'm reading so looks like your breeding angle is the right one at the moment
 
Cheltenham Festival winner Topofthegame out for the season. Paul Nicholls reports his RSA Chase winner has "a minor leg injury."

As per Racing Post
 
Crolwey113 said:
Cheltenham Festival winner Topofthegame out for the season. Paul Nicholls reports his RSA Chase winner has "a minor leg injury."

As per Racing Post
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Gutted if thats a fact , My biggest bet so far.
 
Kevloaf said:
Chantry House gets a positive mention and a nudge toward Ballymore being the option in the book I'm reading so looks like your breeding angle is the right one at the moment
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My problem is that nearly my entire shortlist of novice hurdlers I have done for the Ballymore. Usually I have a more even split but across the three races but I’m stacked on the Ballymore this year. Longhouse Poet is another on that list I want on side.
 
Cheers Crolwey , Ouch ,Ouch Ouch !!.:heart-borken::sorrow:
 
Apologies if this has already been mentioned on here but was looking through the sky request a bets and came across one I liked the look of. Thomas Darby, Emitom, Klassical Dream and Defi de Seuil all to place any race 80-1.
 
taylorch1990 said:
Apologies if this has already been mentioned on here but was looking through the sky request a bets and came across one I liked the look of. Thomas Darby, Emitom, Klassical Dream and Defi de Seuil all to place any race 80-1.
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They look like attractive bets but every year when I go back and review what I've done ante post, I've found to my detriment that there have been far too many bets like this chipping away at my profit (or adding to my losses :)). The chances all 4 make it to the festival fit and well, let alone place, are unlikely. My advice, particularly for horses like Thomas Darby and Emitom that are still bigger prices, would be to get them onside in doubles or singles, without taking larger priced more risky acca's. Thomas Darby (arkle) & Emitom (stayers) is 883/1, so you'd get over 20/1+ on a place.
 
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Agree with Charlie, I do up to trebles on the RAB but even then I know I am against it, so use them for free bets only.

I think it was Archie (apologies if not) that worked out about 6/4 for a horse to make it to the festival, not sure if this was used with logic or his own feeling (I can't remember, but I use it anyway), and on that basis you'd be getting 38/1 for the above four horses just to make it to the festival.
 
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