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Triumph Hurdle 2020

The King Pimm said:
Do you mean Botox Has has a lot too make up on form or Mick Pastor?
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Yeah on collateral form, so the 3rd from the race Botox Has finished 2nd in in France was PU against Mick Pastor and the 4th placed horse was 33 lengths behind Mick Pastor, as opposed to only 7 lengths behind BH.

Obviously being juveniles they are all open to any amount of improvement from each race, but I struggle to imagine Mick Pastor won't have a bit in hand, provided fit enough of course.
 
billymag said:
Ive backed Mick Pastor for the Triumph and Im pretty concerned about him here tomorrow on this ground, if he doesnt settle it could be a bit disastrous, fearing the worst hoping for the best.
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Ground could be a concern, though it didn't stop him at Auteuil when beating Nirvana Du Berlais.
 
Mick Pastor hacked up in heavy ground in France so tomorrow should be a piece of cake.
 
Allmankind
3g Sea The Moon - Wemyss Bay
W J and T C O Gredley
6231-60 (Flat)
RPR 89f OR 86f
Has some good form on the Flat but he's been very keen and we need to get him settled. He looks like he's taken well to hurdles and he's one to look forward to.

Botox Has
3g Dream Well - Bournie
John Stone
2-1
RPR 115h

A promising juvenile hurdler, who beat Sunday's Kempton winner Prefontaine on his first start for us. That was a good performance and he could run in the Triumph Hurdle Trial at Cheltenham in mid-November.
 
Zarkareva declared for the 12.35 at Punchestown on Sunday. Could be an interesting one although I'm not sure HdB has much of a history with juvenile hurdlers.
 
Chris said:
Mick Pastor hacked up in heavy ground in France so tomorrow should be a piece of cake.
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I admire your confidence,

Nirvana du berlais was held up, it's been shown since that hes seen to far better effect being allowed to dictate.

in Hind sight and in all reality mick pastor might be a flash in the pan who caught a decent one out early, having been allowed an easy run into the race.

At 40s what he was, maybe worth a punt, but at short odds tomorrow your brave, hes now found in the market and no value for the triumph itself unless ofcourse he wins like you think, and runs a sequence
 
Chris said:
Mick Pastor hacked up in heavy ground in France so tomorrow should be a piece of cake.
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They are on record about how keen is at home, if he's keen tomorrow its very hard to see him doing himself justice. I hope he wins 10 lengths but pretty concerned, that is my nature generally with these things, suffering PMT (pre-Mick-tension)
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Ground could be a concern, though it didn't stop him at Auteuil when beating Nirvana Du Berlais.
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Video here https://c-f.fr/tribune/videos/3814-prix-de-pouilly-2019-auteuil-mick-pastor

Doesnt look like GB heavy

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https://www.sportingindex.com/barry...s/barry-geraghty-sporting-insights-15-11-2019


My first ride on the Saturday is Mick Pastor for Paul Nicholls. He’s a French import with heavy ground form, so you would like to think conditions won’t be a problem.

He has the right kind of profile for the race and Paul seems very keen on him. Of the opposition, Allmankind from the Skelton yard won well at Warwick last time out, while Gary Moore’s Botox Has was impressive at Fontwell.
 
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What a horrible sight those 2 horses falling at last and staying down. Do hope they were just winded.
 
I notice horses are being cut quite a bit now purely for being Declared, one being Mick Pastor. They are getting worse.
 
jonthehammer said:
I notice horses are being cut quite a bit now purely for being Declared, one being Mick Pastor. They are getting worse.
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i noticed that too. MP going from 20/1 into 16s with 365. To be honest I am not on him tomorrow and won’t be either at the price, but good luck to all. Got a free but on for triumph at 40s but nothing else.
 
Mick Pastor will probably go a silly short price if he wins well tomorrow giving 5lbs to this lot.
 
billymag said:
They are on record about how keen is at home, if he's keen tomorrow its very hard to see him doing himself justice. I hope he wins 10 lengths but pretty concerned, that is my nature generally with these things, suffering PMT (pre-Mick-tension)
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ha ha !!:highly_amused:,:highly_amused:, love it Billymag.
 
great performance that, super keen all the way round and theyve never got to him. Still looked green as grass too.

Betting pretty much determined Mick Pastors fate before they set off..
 
Be very surprised if we saw the winner of this race today.

Well done scooby, good shout on the winner.
 
QUOTES: Obviously we will aim to come back here in March. ALLMANKIND is good enough to have a place in that [the JCB Triumph Hurdle], and he's tough - nothing will get to him in the meantime, if that makes sense. I can't see why he needs more experience and that type of thing, so we can just plan backwards from there. I should imagine one race before then - Dan Skelton, trainer.
 
Danny boy will need the time to get him to settle, if he succeeds then 20/1 could look very big.
 
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