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Triumph Hurdle 2020

billymag said:
Monte Cristo does look very interesting!
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Has the experience of a big handicap too. (MC won. 2nd won a listed race since)

But Depends if they bring over garfield. Who'd likely blow him out of the water
 
Scooby91 said:
Id be suprised if it was under 100.

The winner was 108.

the horse who finished Stone last was only 5L behind Japan in the grand prix de paris.
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I could guess :p I wanted cold hard facts.

That don't matter as I've already backed it now :highly_amused: Cheers
 
Monte Cristo
3g Montmartre - Rylara Des Brosses
Simon Munir & Isaac Souede
1
RPR 121h
Only arrived last week but won a juvenile handicap hurdle at Auteuil and is nice; he looks the part for juveniles over here.
 
ill stick with what iv got. Mine wont be out until after christmas.

Monte cristo, mick pastor, echoes in rain.
Will be the early market pace setters,
(This years adjali/ qjel destin) whether they'll hold on to that after christmas, im not sure
 
Monte Cristo backed for this max EW bet at 50/1 with Hills, owners usually have a good one for this and he looks the most likely to me.
 
billymag said:
Monte Cristo backed for this max EW bet at 50/1 with Hills, owners usually have a good one for this and he looks the most likely to me.
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Good luck Billy, I'd certainly expect him to win 1st time up.
 
Scooby91 said:
Good luck Billy, I'd certainly expect him to win 1st time up.
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Thank you. Im taking the stance that Garfield would only come over if something went wrong with the owners other runners, this is just my view and based on how they have operated in the past, I could be way off the mark.
 
As the French imports are always popular for the Triumph, I wanted to see where the winners and placed horses made their debuts over the last 10 years:

Winners (10)
UK Flat = 2
IRE Flat = 2
FR Flat = 2
FR Hurdle = 2
UK Hurdle = 1
FR Bumper = 1

Placed Horses (20)
IRE Flat = 9
FR Hurdle = 8
FR Flat = 2
UK Flat = 1

Totals
IRE Flat = 11
FR Hurdle = 10
FR Flat = 4
UK Flat = 3
UK Hurdle = 1
FR Bumper = 1

* this only considers the placed horses and does not include how many runners from each category took part in the race.
 
Has Fujimoto Flyer been purchased by Munir and Souede? When it was due to run in a France the other day it had their colours next to it?
 
JackieMoon33 said:
As the French imports are always popular for the Triumph, I wanted to see where the winners and placed horses made their debuts over the last 10 years:

Winners (10)
UK Flat = 2
IRE Flat = 2
FR Flat = 2
FR Hurdle = 2
UK Hurdle = 1
FR Bumper = 1

Placed Horses (20)
IRE Flat = 9
FR Hurdle = 8
FR Flat = 2
UK Flat = 1

Totals
IRE Flat = 11
FR Hurdle = 10
FR Flat = 4
UK Flat = 3
UK Hurdle = 1
FR Bumper = 1

* this only considers the placed horses and does not include how many runners from each category took part in the race.
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Could say the same for any race. But espoir dallen, fusil raffles , we have a dream, were all injured the last 2 years and fakir went for the supreme. 4 very good french juveniles that would skew the stats just in the last 2 years.
 
Scooby91 said:
But espoir dallen, fusil raffles , we have a dream, were all injured the last 2 years and fakir went for the supreme. 4 very good french juveniles that would skew the stats just in the last 2 years.
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I mean if all the horses I had backed over the years ran instead of getting injured I could probably have retired by now. Using injuries or missing the festival as a reason doesn't change the stats above, that Jackie supplied.
 
billymag said:
Thank you. Im taking the stance that Garfield would only come over if something went wrong with the owners other runners, this is just my view and based on how they have operated in the past, I could be way off the mark.
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Surely 50/1 with cash out is a no brainer then?
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I mean if all the horses I had backed over the years ran instead of getting injured I could probably have retired by now. Using injuries or missing the festival as a reason doesn't change the stats above, that Jackie supplied.
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Indeed. They may have been injured but they also could have run and been unplaced.
 
Hurricane fly said:
Surely 50/1 with cash out is a no brainer then?
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Ive not had the option of cash out for a number of years so not sure how that works theses days. From what i read on here it sounds like they are starting to shut it down a bit. If your asking me if 50/1 nrnb is a no brainer then yes if your asking if 50/1 with cash out is a no brainer not sure im afraid.
 
Scooby, any thoughts on Rayapour for Willie Mullins, came from The Aga Khan operation, form in France on the flat?
 
B365 have now followed suit on Homer and cut into 25 from 40. Think PP still 16’s.
 
paz247 said:
Scooby, any thoughts on Rayapour for Willie Mullins, came from The Aga Khan operation, form in France on the flat?
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Iv backed him, very high class on the flat. really nice horse. mc neil family owned. In training at Willie's now after being gelded.


https://mobile.twitter.com/mcneill_family?lang=en
Max would know more than me.





I cant think of a better flat 3yo willies had, Obviously needs to be able to jump, and id like to see them get 2 races in beforehand. Unlike saldier previously who only got 1.
 
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