Should go close but not much depth to the race to enhance his claims hugely.
1st Western ryder
2nd mont des avaloirs
3rd summerville boy
4th kalashnikov
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Supreme Novices 2018
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Should go close but not much depth to the race to enhance his claims hugely.
1st Western ryder
2nd mont des avaloirs
3rd summerville boy
4th kalashnikov
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Mags Mullins did warn prior to his run in Leopardstown that she would have liked to have gotten a run into him as he had missed some work and that no matter what he was going to come on for the run.
Danny echoed this in a preview of the same race :
"I ride Debuchet in this race who of course is trained by my mother Mags, he’s a horse who did very well last season and he’s one to look forward to here. We wanted to get him out a bit sooner but he had a small wind operation which, although was fairly minor, it was definitely a setback. At the moment at home we’re very happy with him and although he’s fit and ready he’s going to improve from the run which most horse do after their first outing of the year."
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Thanks! Pretty much how it looked also.
Are we still thinking he's a Supreme horse? Or possibly a step up in trip...
I guess entries will tell all.
That Paddy Power Future Champions Hurdle was a serious race if you look at the sectionals. Considering it was run at such a fierce pace, for Sharjah to still be tanking on the bridle coming to the last marks him out as a real contender. His flat speed is decent so I'd hope he would have put the race to bed after the last. Assuming he's none the worse for his fall think i'm tempted to go in again before the off
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Was certainly a part of most people's festival last year.
I'm surprised he hasn't stepped up in trip barf on my own visual impression however I've been told the trainer very much sees him as a Supreme horse this season.
I hope he does beat Kalashnikov at the weekend as Kalashnikov is the shortest horse in the supreme betting that I've not backed
Haha, i'm definitely with you!
Although he cost me fortunes in last years bumper, i've stuck with him and got a few tasty prices on the exchanges for this years supreme. I'm more than happy for people to tip him up though, the shorter he is come the day, the more likely I am to starting laying
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A bit of Debuchet news...
Mullins said: "He's good and came out of the race in good form.
"I was delighted with the way he ran. I suppose he was the high-profile horse in the race and everyone expects them to win, but I was delighted with him.
"He jumped well apart from one mistake and even then he was quick away from the hurdle. He took a blow turning for home, but we felt he'd come on from it and he has."
"We might leave him now until the new weekend in Leopardstown (Dublin Racing Festival, February 3 and 4).
"There is the Graded novice hurdle for him (Deloitte Novice Hurdle) and that's where we might go, but I'll talk to the owners.
"He's in right order at the moment."
Mullins said: "He's good and came out of the race in good form.
"I was delighted with the way he ran. I suppose he was the high-profile horse in the race and everyone expects them to win, but I was delighted with him.
"He jumped well apart from one mistake and even then he was quick away from the hurdle. He took a blow turning for home, but we felt he'd come on from it and he has."
"We might leave him now until the new weekend in Leopardstown (Dublin Racing Festival, February 3 and 4).
"There is the Graded novice hurdle for him (Deloitte Novice Hurdle) and that's where we might go, but I'll talk to the owners.
"He's in right order at the moment."
Can anyone enlighten me about kalashnikov. Is it the style of his wins???
Because I really don't get it, his forms poor in the context of a supreme.
He was ridden along to beat Irish prophesy who'd be a 100/1 shot in the supreme and I don't see him much better than summerville boy.
Because I really don't get it, his forms poor in the context of a supreme.
He was ridden along to beat Irish prophesy who'd be a 100/1 shot in the supreme and I don't see him much better than summerville boy.
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Unbeaten and unexposed still because of the easy wins?
Progressive so far ....
If he wins tomorrow he would be a lively UK contender.
Don't fancy him myself ... as I said before though, first one I've not got covered haha
Any of them bar probably russian doyen I'd have thought would be unbeaten if they ran in the same races as kalashnikov.
Think he's massively under priced, We will see tomorrow if he can dispatch these. But I don't think he will.
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Not for me either, but I suppose its the old adage of you can only beat whats in front of you. Three from three and fairly effortless in them all. So I suppose some are prepared to gamble that he could be anything.
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Is PYM still being aimed at the Supreme?
No, he wouldn’t be a Supreme horse and in my opinion he’ll get further so if it is anything the Ballymore will be more likely, but it’s a big if. He schooled this morning and jumped very well. I hope to have him out in the next few weeks.
No, he wouldn’t be a Supreme horse and in my opinion he’ll get further so if it is anything the Ballymore will be more likely, but it’s a big if. He schooled this morning and jumped very well. I hope to have him out in the next few weeks.
Would really confuse me if he won this without being all out. Interesting race all the same.
If Sussex Ranger should spring a huge surprise - wouldn't be all that surprising to me, his speed figures are exceptional - tomorrow, could we see him head here rather than the Triumph? I've backed him at 8/1 for tomorrow and have him covered for the Triumph, but do the Moores have any strong history with Juveniles? Do they strictly stick to the Triumph?
Is it not his 2nd preferance should chepstow be abandoned?
Think he might end up in the fred winter personally 137 now. If he gets beat up in grade.... all depends on the owners.
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Have you listened to the Racing post Podcast.... Dave Jennings and Frank Hickey arguing over Western Ryder! :highly_amused:
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I haven't seen anywhere that it is Scooby, have you seen anything? There seems to be quite a bit of support for him in the Tolworth, best backed horse on Oddschecker, though not sure how much I trust that data.