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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

squiggsy68 said:
Along with Sussex winning the 2006 C&G Trophy (as it was then) after setting Lancashire a meagre 173 to win, that is the best live sporting event that I've ever attended.
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Another cricket fan, "good old Sussex by the sea" too :victorious:
 
I admit i thought Sprinter Sacre was finished the year he won it in 2016, i was on him heavily the previous year when Dodging Bullets won it and UDS was a superior animal to DB, i just couldn't see it
 
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charlie said:
Haha Nicky really doesn't help himself does he. Altior's best performance in recent years was arguably the Tingle Creek vs UDS on proper soft ground, oh, and there's the 2/2 on soft ground at the festival as well :)

Sounds like he is getting his excuses in early
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He's just a waffler really as much as I like taking the piss out of him.

His actual best performance was his first Champion on soft (heavy in places) :highly_amused:
 
Quevega said:
He's just a waffler really as much as I like taking the piss out of him.

His actual best performance was his first Champion on soft (heavy in places) :highly_amused:
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Spot on. He’s talking nonsense, as usual.
 
Honestly amazed anything he says is printed... it’s ridiculous. Sad as it is he’s clearly an Alcy and isn’t in a fit state to think clearly
 
It would appear he might have a problem, BUT this is supposedly his month off the sauce. Not sure if it’s more concerning that he comes out with this stuff when sober!!
 
Can’t wait for this race and it may be one just to watch as it has the makings to be one of the best in many many years!

But I was trying to find an angle of some value as the front 3 have all sort of been short enough in the betting. I know cps was around 8/1 start of the season and drifted after his comeback defeat but Dynamite Dollars at 25/1 could surely be a value e/w play?

I know he is a lot to make up with the front 3 but if we rewind back 12 months I don’t think anyone seen past the front 3 in the betting of the Champion Hurdle at the time. His comeback run last weekend was good given the long lay off and he barely did anything wrong in his novice season. If one of the front 3 don’t perform for whatever reason I reckon DD could pick up the pieces and run a place or better still if all 3 underperform win.

Does anyone think it’s a value bet or just nailed with the front 3?
 
Craigy14 said:
Can’t wait for this race and it may be one just to watch as it has the makings to be one of the best in many many years!

But I was trying to find an angle of some value as the front 3 have all sort of been short enough in the betting. I know cps was around 8/1 start of the season and drifted after his comeback defeat but Dynamite Dollars at 25/1 could surely be a value e/w play?

I know he is a lot to make up with the front 3 but if we rewind back 12 months I don’t think anyone seen past the front 3 in the betting of the Champion Hurdle at the time. His comeback run last weekend was good given the long lay off and he barely did anything wrong in his novice season. If one of the front 3 don’t perform for whatever reason I reckon DD could pick up the pieces and run a place or better still if all 3 underperform win.

Does anyone think it’s a value bet or just nailed with the front 3?
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I went and looked back at his novice season.
That was enough to put me off.
But it's Nichols and he can improve them, and he can also talk up the wrong horse as well.
 
Quevega said:
I went and looked back at his novice season.
That was enough to put me off.
But it's Nichols and he can improve them, and he can also talk up the wrong horse as well.
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I know his novice form isn’t the best but figures of 12111 is pretty impressive. Can only beat the opposition in front of him too.

I’d say he must have improved to get that close to altior first run back? 3 length defeat first time in open company as well. Or do we think altior has regressed a bit and should have beaten them a lot easier?
 
Craigy14 said:
I know his novice form isn’t the best but figures of 12111 is pretty impressive. Can only beat the opposition in front of him too.

I’d say he must have improved to get that close to altior first run back? 3 length defeat first time in open company as well. Or do we think altior has regressed a bit and should have beaten them a lot easier?
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I personally think altior is letting them get to close (or the jockey is).
Those horses in behind are getting flattered, and they were in the champion too.
 
Craigy14 said:
Can’t wait for this race and it may be one just to watch as it has the makings to be one of the best in many many years!

But I was trying to find an angle of some value as the front 3 have all sort of been short enough in the betting. I know cps was around 8/1 start of the season and drifted after his comeback defeat but Dynamite Dollars at 25/1 could surely be a value e/w play?

I know he is a lot to make up with the front 3 but if we rewind back 12 months I don’t think anyone seen past the front 3 in the betting of the Champion Hurdle at the time. His comeback run last weekend was good given the long lay off and he barely did anything wrong in his novice season. If one of the front 3 don’t perform for whatever reason I reckon DD could pick up the pieces and run a place or better still if all 3 underperform win.

Does anyone think it’s a value bet or just nailed with the front 3?
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I can't see him beating all of the 'big 3' so he's looking at a place at best imo. It works out at 2/1 to be placed which isn't appealing to me.

Like you say though, the Champion Hurdle looked certain to go to one of the favourites last season so anything can happen.
 
You’re probably both right and I think the same that he’ll struggle to beat all 3 of the big guns.

FM how would it be 2/1 to place out of interest? If he’s 25/1 at 1/5 of the odds it’s 5/1 to place. Or are you taking it down as he’s unlikely to beat all 3?

As Q also says it is Nicholls he knows how to win it, he is only 7 so plenty improvement could be expected.
 
Craigy14 said:
FM how would it be 2/1 to place out of interest? If he’s 25/1 at 1/5 of the odds it’s 5/1 to place. Or are you taking it down as he’s unlikely to beat all 3?.
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If you have £10 each way at 25s, you'll get £60 back if he places.

You obviously have a ticket for the win, but without the win it pays 2/1
 
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