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National Hunt Chase (4 miler) 2019

jono said:
Can't remember which podcast from this week but they stated Robbie Power was fuming coming back in and was adamant he had the race won before falling at the last.
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Whoever the pundit was on ATR tonight gave it as his bet for the festival, excluding the obvious shorties. He confirmed Power thought it would have won last time & that the 4 miler was, in his opinion, most likely!
 
Cashew King said:
Whoever the pundit was on ATR tonight gave it as his bet for the festival, excluding the obvious shorties. He confirmed Power thought it would have won last time & that the 4 miler was, in his opinion, most likely!
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Wow.

So in general are people favouring 22/1 any race or 33/1 (365) here?
 
Joe Tizzard said 2m4 is perfect for White Moon.
 
Kevloaf said:
Wow.

So in general are people favouring 22/1 any race or 33/1 (365) here?
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I'd probably go RSA 44-1 W Hill with boost.
Not sure what else R Power will have to potentially ride in RSA but he'll be persuasive if he thinks this is his best bet. Pretty sure he won't be suggesting four miler as most professionals wouldn't.
 
Kevloaf said:
Wow.

So in general are people favouring 22/1 any race or 33/1 (365) here?
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Most of my bet is any race but had a smaller bet on the 4 miler which is what I hope will be his target.
 
Any race then :highly_amused:

as the last 3 posts name 3 different targets :p
 
Kevloaf said:
Any race then :highly_amused:

as the last 3 posts name 3 different targets :p
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Probably runs in the Ultima then:highly_amused:

He isn't a JLT horse at all but I'd be happy with any of the others.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Probably runs in the Ultima then:highly_amused:

He isn't a JLT horse at all but I'd be happy with any of the others.
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Yeah, looking at the way he ran the other day, the 2m 4f don't seem right to me. I thought he was gathering the horse nicely.
 
See 'Team Tizzard' on the This Racing Life. Good insight into the yard. They mean business now, sold their cows and want more horses for a crack at the trainers' title. Joe said they are bold with targets and prefer to go for big pots. I suspect if White Moon has been identified as one of their best novice chasers it will end up in the JLT or RSA.
 
As ever, it will depend on how the horse develops, it's not completed a chase yet.
And how other stablemates get on like Lostintranslation and Kilbricken.
Then there's the opposition to think of.
Available jockeys etc etc.
But as Boopa says, they've sold their cows and mean business, that's what they call a punters edge.:devilish:
 
I definitely agree regarding the JLT. I appreciate you can make a case he'd have won the race nicely over 2m4f last time, but Power was off the birdle, riding him in to a few fences, he didn't jump as slickly as others for quite a number of the fences and I imagine the further they went the better he'd have been. PRobably similar for Mr Whipped but never been a fan of him.

I do think he'd go RSA but am not as bullish that he couldn't go for the 4 miler.

DIsagree with Joe Tizzard that he's a 2m4f horse tohugh after watching it back a few times.
 
I’ll probably take the plunge on Blow By Blow at 20’s he lost nothing in defeat lto imo...

Gigginstown have a ridiculous army of staying novice chasers this season and I’d hazard a guess Delta Work/Cracking Smart will be there RSA darts! With Champagne Classic/Poli Roi going JLT! Still gutted BBB didn’t go Albert Bartlett last March after cashing out on my Martin Pipe ticket after the weights were revealed!
 
SeanRock said:
I’ll probably take the plunge on Blow By Blow at 20’s he lost nothing in defeat lto imo...

Gigginstown have a ridiculous army of staying novice chasers this season and I’d hazard a guess Delta Work/Cracking Smart will be there RSA darts! With Champagne Classic/Poli Roi going JLT! Still gutted BBB didn’t go Albert Bartlett last March after cashing out on my Martin Pipe ticket after the weights were revealed!
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I really like Blow By Blow, as do many on here, however, I struggle to place any of the Gigginstown lot in a particular race yet. I have gone 'any race' on pretty much all of them so far, having been stung by Shattered Love's deferral to the JLT last season. Do not be surprised if they talk up the 4 miler for BBB and then go for the RSA or vice versa!

I agree regarding White Moon, if they are as keen as they seem to appear on him then no way he ends up here, may open up the door for my Kilbricken Storm bet in this!

I am also still intrigued as to the potential target for OK Corral, and his well being, I think he could be a player in this and being JP owned he will have one of the top 2 jockeys on board as well.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I am also still intrigued as to the potential target for OK Corral, and his well being, I think he could be a player in this and being JP owned he will have one of the top 2 jockeys on board as well.
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He's another who I've split my stake between any race and this. He's obviously difficult to train but looks the ideal type for this race to me. His chasing debut is eagerly anticipated.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I really like Blow By Blow, as do many on here, however, I struggle to place any of the Gigginstown lot in a particular race yet. I have gone 'any race' on pretty much all of them so far, having been stung by Shattered Love's deferral to the JLT last season. Do not be surprised if they talk up the 4 miler for BBB and then go for the RSA or vice versa!

I agree regarding White Moon, if they are as keen as they seem to appear on him then no way he ends up here, may open up the door for my Kilbricken Storm bet in this!

I am also still intrigued as to the potential target for OK Corral, and his well being, I think he could be a player in this and being JP owned he will have one of the top 2 jockeys on board as well.
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I get your point re placing the Gigginstown lot but to me this stands out for BBB by an absolute country mile. Whilst I have been very satisfied with his two runs over fences to date he has done nothing to make me think they will go RSA and that's reflected by the prices in the market. Because I am convinced he will end up here I have smashed into him ante post, which may seem slightly contradictory as in a previous thread I've said the first thing I look for in an decent AP bet is a clear target, buts it's a bit like you being 100% sure Envoi Allen won't go bumper on a feeling - that's how I feel about BBB with this (hopefully Delta Work and Cracking Smart stay sound). He looks like every inch of 4 miles over fences round Cheltenham will suit and in typing this I have just convinced myself to go back in @ 20/1. Up the BBB!
 
charlie said:
I get your point re placing the Gigginstown lot but to me this stands out for BBB by an absolute country mile. Whilst I have been very satisfied with his two runs over fences to date he has done nothing to make me think they will go RSA and that's reflected by the prices in the market. Because I am convinced he will end up here I have smashed into him ante post, which may seem slightly contradictory as in a previous thread I've said the first thing I look for in an decent AP bet is a clear target, buts it's a bit like you being 100% sure Envoi Allen won't go bumper on a feeling - that's how I feel about BBB with this (hopefully Delta Work and Cracking Smart stay sound). He looks like every inch of 4 miles over fences round Cheltenham will suit and in typing this I have just convinced myself to go back in @ 20/1. Up the BBB!
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You and many others on here will likely be right about BBB Charlie, and there is every chance I may eventually follow you all in, the form lines with Next Destination would lead me to believe he has no chance in the RSA anyway, if ND turned up there and that's before he takes on any of the others, I just have nagging concerns about the other Gigginstown potentials.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
You and many others on here will likely be right about BBB Charlie, and there is every chance I may eventually follow you all in, the form lines with Next Destination would lead me to believe he has no chance in the RSA anyway, if ND turned up there and that's before he takes on any of the others, I just have nagging concerns about the other Gigginstown potentials.
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Completely agree re form lines with ND, another thing keeping me quite happy. I see the fact that Gigginstown have Champagne Classic, Cracking Smart and Delta Work as potential RSA horses as a big plus not negative for BBB going 4 miler. We all know the RSA is won by a 'classier type' and I cant help but feel that that's how Gordon views these three over BBB:

Cracking Smart - He’s a horse we think an awful lot of. We thought he was one of the nicest stayers we had last season, but he picked up a setback before Cheltenham. He’s back on track now and the plan is to go chasing.

Delta Work - He looks like one that will make up into a nice staying novice chaser this season. His best run last season was arguably his last one when he was second in a Grade 1 novice hurdle at the Punchestown Festival, so he seemed to get better as the season went on. Hopefully there will be more improvement in him this season.

Champagne Classic - He’s on the way back. His form has worked out quite well in his absence and I think he could be a good horse if we can keep him right. The plan is to go novice chasing with him and he’s probably more of a three-miler.

BBB - He’s in good form. Arguably his best form is on better ground. He’ll start off over fences sooner rather than later and he might end up being one for the National Hunt Chase at the Cheltenham Festival.

*FYI - nobody has paid me to try and convince you ComplyOrDie :highly_amused:
 
Been trying to work this one out myself., and think bbb is going n.h.chs, D.w -r.s.a , the other two i don't know
But , I haven't got Cracking smart in any bets , so would like to get him
in some . probably R.s.a . ??
 
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