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  • Originally posted by Pendil View Post

    Archie I don't know if you are talking mares novices or open races when you mention "other mares races" . The new race is open. Course the other mares race at Cheltenham is the mares hurdle , grade 1 no penalty
    The mares hurdle started as a G2 with penalties based on race class not grade.

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    • Originally posted by archie View Post

      The mares hurdle started as a G2 with penalties based on race class not grade.
      Yet the Grade 2 NH novice chase doesn't have penalties. Specifically I will be surprised if BDD gets a penalty for winning 2 listed mares chases 4 years earlier.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        I have done many Pantos so that makes sense!
        Let me guess !

        Front or Back end of the Donkey ?
        or
        Widow Twanky ?

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Fair points COD. I agree I do keep on far too much sometimes and should wind my neck in more. The forums full of different characters with all sorts of info and opinions which makes it a top place. I've backed a big percentage of my horses on the back of the stuff on here . Long may it continue.
          Haha, please don't wind your neck in, some of your points are complete genius, some are funny and some are garbage but i try to make sure i read every one of them

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          • Originally posted by Joleg View Post

            Haha, please don't wind your neck in, some of your points are complete genius, some are funny and some are garbage but i try to make sure i read every one of them
            What's the percentage breakdown ?

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              Yep, Ladbrokes

              They've taken themselves off of Oddschecker, so you have to manually check them each time.
              Cheers lads. Cracking price.

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              • Shattered love having a rare spin over hurdles tomorrow. Rated 16lbs lower than she is over the big ones. Carrying 10 st 6 and got a very good 7lb claimer on.

                Opened up 7/1 Bet Victor

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                Last edited by jonthehammer; 4 December 2020, 05:05 PM.

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                • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post
                  Shattered love having a rare spin over hurdles tomorrow. Rated 16lbs lower than she is over the big ones. Carrying 10 st 6 and got a very good 7lb claimer on.

                  Opened up 7/1 Bet Victor

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                  Could potentially go down the Pertempts route??? I don't think she properly stays 3 miles though.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Could potentially go down the Pertempts route??? I don't think she properly stays 3 miles though.
                    She may do carrying a feather on her back

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                    • Shattered Love attempt over 3miles Hurdles didn't go well today. Looked once again that she didn't stay which makes the Mares Chase even more probable as her Fez race.

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                      • I know it had been mentioned that Dame De Compagnie might be heading here, would it concern you that she hasnt been seen and doesn't have any entries yet? That's before you even consider the Coral Cup form isn't working out.

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                        • Shattered Love was backpedaling long before half a mile out though. It occurred to me that she was seriously well handicapped with the excellent Gavin Brouder taking a further 7lbs off leaving her carrying almost 2 stones less than her chase mark. Yet she was a drifter in the market, and usually horses seriously well in on their hurdles form are backed.

                          Then I got to thinking. Gordon must have put her in the race for a reason. It wasn’t just for spin over hurdles. There’s a plan, even if it’s a backup plan. She’d have a really good chance in the Mares Chase if Benie doesn’t go there. But what if she does. We have a horse that has a great mark over hurdles, so just put her into the Coral Cup or maybe qualify her for the Pertemps. She’d be really well in. Then Gordon thinks. ‘Oh hang on, I tried that with the Storyteller and the UK handicapper made me run him off his chase mark. I know, I’ll run this one over hurdles first and show she’s no better than her current hurdles mark and he can’t do much more than give me 5lbs UK tax’................................
                          Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                            Shattered Love was backpedaling long before half a mile out though. It occurred to me that she was seriously well handicapped with the excellent Gavin Brouder taking a further 7lbs off leaving her carrying almost 2 stones less than her chase mark. Yet she was a drifter in the market, and usually horses seriously well in on their hurdles form are backed.

                            Then I got to thinking. Gordon must have put her in the race for a reason. It wasn’t just for spin over hurdles. There’s a plan, even if it’s a backup plan. She’d have a really good chance in the Mares Chase if Benie doesn’t go there. But what if she does. We have a horse that has a great mark over hurdles, so just put her into the Coral Cup or maybe qualify her for the Pertemps. She’d be really well in. Then Gordon thinks. ‘Oh hang on, I tried that with the Storyteller and the UK handicapper made me run him off his chase mark. I know, I’ll run this one over hurdles first and show she’s no better than her current hurdles mark and he can’t do much more than give me 5lbs UK tax’................................
                            I reckon the UK handicapper will weight her on performing to 152 chasing last month, and rate her closer to that over hurdles.

                            Gordon could give it a try though, nothing ventured nothing lost.
                            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                            • Another poor or average run over hurdles and the UK handicapper would find that hard I think SW.
                              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                              • I have had a small interest in yukon Lil at 33's for this prior to today's race, she ran a very nice race first time out over an inadequate trip following a very creditable run in the mares novice hurdle in March.

                                She's a big horse out of flemensfirth from a kings theatre mare so you would think she's only likely to improve for fences and a step up in trip and i was impressed with how she did it over 2m1f last time

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