Stayers Hurdle 2019

[Folski]

Another I've looked at that interests me and I've just watched the video's of his races again.
ROBIN ROE - skelton
Anyone any idea how this horse is and what the plans are, it looked as exciting a horse as I saw a couple of years back. Moves fantasticly well.

Moved to Ollie Murphy, think the owner may have been seeing Skelton's father then ended the relationship and moved all her horses to OM. Not sure if that's right but I looked into it a few months back. Horse is back in training as far as I know.

 

[jono]

Another I've looked at that interests me and I've just watched the video's of his races again.
ROBIN ROE - skelton
Anyone any idea how this horse is and what the plans are, it looked as exciting a horse as I saw a couple of years back. Moves fantasticly well.

He could well be the first horse that puts Olly Murphy 'on the map' but i'd be surprised if connections don't try and utilise his hurdles rating of 135 in a handicap this season (at least before moving onto something like this). Looks incredibly lenient when you consider on his Aintree run in October 2016 he beat No Comment by 12L (145 over hurdles) and Tintern Theatre another 4.5L back (137 over hurdles)

 

[BigChaang]

Sam Spinner to return to action at Newbury ,in a couple of weeks , was supposed to be going to wetherby
But got a bruised foot.

 

[charlie]

I stuck a £5 free bet on Yorkhill @ 50/1. I think I have officially lost the plot

 

[Chris]

Robin roe got a bad injury and I am not sure if he recovered from it.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

I stuck a £5 free bet on Yorkhill @ 50/1. I think I have officially lost the plot

I think you must have Charlie

 

[charlie]

I think you must have Charlie

Perhaps! Providing he stays well he has to go somewhere. He jumps fences like a lunatic and his owner has a love affair with this race. It was a free bet il never see again tho haha

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Perhaps! Providing he stays well he has to go somewhere. He jumps fences like a lunatic and his owner has a love affair with this race. It was a free bet il never see again tho haha

Is there such a thing as a horse psychologist? He had one of the strangest campaigns for a grade 1 horse I can remember and I fear it could have left its mark.

The talent is obviously there but something was certainly missing last season.

 

[Kevloaf]

Perhaps! Providing he stays well he has to go somewhere. He jumps fences like a lunatic and his owner has a love affair with this race. It was a free bet il never see again tho haha

I actually think that isn't a bad shout.... at 50/1 I think you can take a bit of a flyer.

They can't send him over fences again can they... and with a lazy assumption the owner likes to win the stayers hurdle you can keep him happy.

Worse 50/1 shots out there... it'd only take 1 run for him to 'bounce back' after the summer off and you're looking at a 2m5f hurdle winner up against some pretty average horses?


As FM says, it's unlikely he'll ever be as good as he was, but on his best form he's not a double figure price for this race, let alone 50/1

 

[jono]

This is coming from someone who had been a firm believer that he would be lining up in the Gold Cup last March :very_drunk: but has Yorkhill shown anything over his 3 runs at 3m+ to suggest he could go do anything in this race? Bar the usual 'more likely to stay the older they get' cliche.

Though I don't blame you charlie for using up a free bet on him, complete cliff horse of mine even after last season!! And he has 0% chance he will line up in the CH again so it's only this race, or...

As I mentioned in another thread - chuck him in the best 2m-2m5 hurdle races over the winter, then stick him in the Coral Cup at the festival and just hope that spark may well come back, over a track and trip that has him down as a dual festival winner. You really want a horse on the upgrade in most festival handicaps, and that race especially but we've seen the likes of Supasundae win off 148, Whisper off 153 and Topofthegame come second off 150. A strong pace, big field handicap would help. His current hurdles mark of 151 was the same mark he had when winning the Neptune in 2016. Now he's nothing like that same horse now but what else have they got to try?!

That's what I would do anyway! :triumphant: Back to this race and horses that actually have a chance again

 

[Quevega]

This is coming from someone who had been a firm believer that he would be lining up in the Gold Cup last March :very_drunk: but has Yorkhill shown anything over his 3 runs at 3m+ to suggest he could go do anything in this race? Bar the usual 'more likely to stay the older they get' cliche.

Though I don't blame you charlie for using up a free bet on him, complete cliff horse of mine even after last season!! And he has 0% chance he will line up in the CH again so it's only this race, or...

As I mentioned in another thread - chuck him in the best 2m-2m5 hurdle races over the winter, then stick him in the Coral Cup at the festival and just hope that spark may well come back, over a track and trip that has him down as a dual festival winner. You really want a horse on the upgrade in most festival handicaps, and that race especially but we've seen the likes of Supasundae win off 148, Whisper off 153 and Topofthegame come second off 150. A strong pace, big field handicap would help. His current hurdles mark of 151 was the same mark he had when winning the Neptune in 2016. Now he's nothing like that same horse now but what else have they got to try?!

That's what I would do anyway! :triumphant: Back to this race and horses that actually have a chance again

100% agree, coral cup perfect plan for this horse if still got any ability

 

[charlie]

I actually think that isn't a bad shout.... at 50/1 I think you can take a bit of a flyer.

They can't send him over fences again can they... and with a lazy assumption the owner likes to win the stayers hurdle you can keep him happy.

Worse 50/1 shots out there... it'd only take 1 run for him to 'bounce back' after the summer off and you're looking at a 2m5f hurdle winner up against some pretty average horses?


As FM says, it's unlikely he'll ever be as good as he was, but on his best form he's not a double figure price for this race, let alone 50/1

Willie said after NC won he was delighted GW won a race he clearly loves. Far from a lazy assumption

 

[Kevloaf]

Willie said after NC won he was delighted GW won a race he clearly loves. Far from a lazy assumption

Despite me agreeing with you for the entire post that I think 50/1 is worth a go, you seem to have taken offense

Your point though proves mine..... BECAUSE Wylie likes the stayers, iut is lazy to assume that is where Yorkhill will go?

We don't know it is the target.....

I assume the lazy assumption is right.... I've made the same assumption - but if he ends up 2 mile chasing I won't be able to say "well I never saw that coming".... it's just the least likely?

 

[charlie]

Despite me agreeing with you for the entire post that I think 50/1 is worth a go, you seem to have taken offense

Your point though proves mine..... BECAUSE Wylie likes the stayers, iut is lazy to assume that is where Yorkhill will go?

We don't know it is the target.....

I assume the lazy assumption is right.... I've made the same assumption - but if he ends up 2 mile chasing I won't be able to say "well I never saw that coming".... it's just the least likely?

Yeh you are right I got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Kevloaf]

This is coming from someone who had been a firm believer that he would be lining up in the Gold Cup last March :very_drunk: but has Yorkhill shown anything over his 3 runs at 3m+ to suggest he could go do anything in this race? Bar the usual 'more likely to stay the older they get' cliche.

Though I don't blame you charlie for using up a free bet on him, complete cliff horse of mine even after last season!! And he has 0% chance he will line up in the CH again so it's only this race, or...

As I mentioned in another thread - chuck him in the best 2m-2m5 hurdle races over the winter, then stick him in the Coral Cup at the festival and just hope that spark may well come back, over a track and trip that has him down as a dual festival winner. You really want a horse on the upgrade in most festival handicaps, and that race especially but we've seen the likes of Supasundae win off 148, Whisper off 153 and Topofthegame come second off 150. A strong pace, big field handicap would help. His current hurdles mark of 151 was the same mark he had when winning the Neptune in 2016. Now he's nothing like that same horse now but what else have they got to try?!

That's what I would do anyway! :triumphant: Back to this race and horses that actually have a chance again

On this topic....does Mullins "lay them out"? He wins enough handicaps through the season to suggest he does.... be a C&D and 2x Distance winner at the festival under Ruby Walsh for Willie Mullins in a handicap?

Too good to be true

 

[Scooby91]

On this topic....does Mullins "lay them out"? He wins enough handicaps through the season to suggest he does.... be a C&D and 2x Distance winner at the festival under Ruby Walsh for Willie Mullins in a handicap?

Too good to be true

Wicklow brave.

 

[Kevloaf]

Wicklow brave.

Wasn't that his first run back though?

I don't think it was a season long traditional "plot".


I'd back Yorkhill got the Coral Cup regardless if he was an intended runner

 

[Quevega]

Wasn't that his first run back though?

I don't think it was a season long traditional "plot".


I'd back Yorkhill got the Coral Cup regardless if he was an intended runner

Not sure about plot, but he got it's mark down to 138 and ran in big Uk handicaps poorly in Feb and march, some would say it was a plot.
Are you thinking of arctic fire ?

 

[jonthehammer]

Not sure about plot, but he got it's mark down to 138 and ran in big Uk handicaps poorly in Feb and march, some would say it was a plot.
Are you thinking of arctic fire ?

Wicklow was pulled up in the Imperial Cup 6 days before he romped home at festival, Never went off with the others, then Ruby had him out back all race before he gave up. Was never going a jot. I know because I backed him and then I went in again for the County Hurdle which he romped by 8 lengths at 25/1.

 

[Quevega]

Wicklow was pulled up in the Imperial Cup 6 days before he romped home at festival, Never went off with the others, then Ruby had him out back all race before he gave up. Was never going a jot. I know because I backed him and then I went in again for the County Hurdle which he romped by 8 lengths at 25/1.

same here fella