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PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

Irish Rugby said:
I'd even go as far to say that a lot that value is still there a week or 2 before the Festival, with the odd bit still around race morning.
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Day of the race betting with enhanced places also much better value than ante post for 95% of horses.
 
I agree, and you have to be selective. The Pertemps is an exception to the rule though, as the qualifiers allow you to get a handle on the race, and you can have to get involved early to bag the value.

In this case Eilliot has a truckload of horses, so which one's turn up is anyone's guess.

Emmet Mullins on the other hand is targeting it with one horse. He's a proper 'job' trainer, and there's nothing not to like about Winter Fog's credentials given the previous MO.

I'd suggest it's well worth breaking your own rule for this horse.
 
Spectre said:
I agree, and you have to be selective. The Pertemps is an exception to the rule though, as the qualifiers allow you to get a handle on the race, and you can have to get involved early to bag the value.

In this case Eilliot has a truckload of horses, so which one's turn up is anyone's guess.

Emmet Mullins on the other hand is targeting it with one horse. He's a proper 'job' trainer, and there's nothing not to like about Winter Fog's credentials given the previous MO.

I'd suggest it's well worth breaking your own rule for this horse.
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….best I can see is 14-1 Hills, looks like he’s not listed at all on Oddschecker.
 
Madmoose said:
Dunboyne as mentioned seems to one to take out of yesterdays qualifier, has back form last season behind Bob & Capodonno and his sire Yeats had three festival winners last season which is a small plus.

Added him to my Born Patriot and Tullybeg bets so will focus on these for that race going forward.
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Im with you MM.
Happy with my position as I think the winner of this race has already booked his place so I'm done with this race now. I can see GE giving Tullybeg a rest now until the festival.
Born Patriot 33 & 25s
Tullybeg 25 & 20s
Dunboyne 33 & 25s.
 
Spectre said:
I agree, and you have to be selective. The Pertemps is an exception to the rule though, as the qualifiers allow you to get a handle on the race, and you can have to get involved early to bag the value.

In this case Eilliot has a truckload of horses, so which one's turn up is anyone's guess.

Emmet Mullins on the other hand is targeting it with one horse. He's a proper 'job' trainer, and there's nothing not to like about Winter Fog's credentials given the previous MO.

I'd suggest it's well worth breaking your own rule for this horse.
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I think another one to take from the race is Futurum Regem.
 
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Spectre said:
I'm surprised people haven't locked on to the blindingly obvious with Winter Fog. Gordon Elliott isn't the only trainer who can plot a horse. He may look as though he's plotting 7 or 8 for the race right now, but Winter Fog is as 'laid out' as any of the likely Elliott participants.

I'd be fairly sure they'll do a 'Shunter' and go and get a five pound penalty somewhere if they need to (probably in a bonus race), because even after it he'll still have a stone or more in hand of his OR.

33/1 pre-race, and still 16/1 post race, I'd be fairly sure he'll be vying for favouritism on the day.
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Tried telling them the other day.
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Have just watched the Leopardstown race back as normal without sound or knowing colours and straight away picked Dunboyne out as the one.
 
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Segal putting up Fog as one to watch “RP tracker column” for E.Mullins & with his recent purple patch could potentially shorten if publicly tipped once the market goes up properly.
 
Anyone think Wakool will target here after today? Was visually very impressive.
 
Mr Fred Rogers won’t be any price for this now seeing one firm who have it priced are 10/1 favs, the 14/1 any race I requested has since been moved to 8/1, I didn’t back this either.
 
Madmoose said:
Mr Fred Rogers won’t be any price for this now seeing one firm who have it priced are 10/1 favs, the 14/1 any race I requested has since been moved to 8/1, I didn’t back this either.
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Christ, he was 25's with Hills the other day i'm sure? 10/1 fav without a run or entry in a qualifier yet, mental.
 
Looks like elliot is fishing for hcap marks looking at how many he has entered at Warwick
 
Nwfb89 said:
Looks like elliot is fishing for hcap marks looking at how many he has entered at Warwick
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As someone pointed out the other day, Elliot could easily end up having half the field and almost be in a position to manipulate the handicap/race…
 
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