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Cheltenham Gold Cup 2020

Tis a decent point. Very rare to KNOW a horse stays 3m2f before it runs in this race.

Percy and Elegant Escape have won over further. ABP doesn't need to prove it. Santini looks like he will be not proven. Which for most others may also be true

ABP had never ran over 3m2 before winning it last year either...
 
Not a view I get.
BDM made a mistake and Santini went past him, 50 yards later BDM was back in front and stayed there as Santini met both the next and last fence on a wrong stride yet powered away for a comfortable win.
March is a different race of course but I can see nothing in BDM to convince me he finishes ahead of Santini...

Spot on , also had Saturdays trip been over the gold cup trip Santini would of beat BDM by at least 10L i reckon maybe more , so on that estimation Santini going to be involved comes March , I can seeing placing at least.
 
Not a view I get.
BDM made a mistake and Santini went past him, 50 yards later BDM was back in front and stayed there as Santini met both the next and last fence on a wrong stride yet powered away for a comfortable win.
March is a different race of course but I can see nothing in BDM to convince me he finishes ahead of Santini...

I personally can't see either of them winning in March to be honest.
 
I personally can't see either of them winning in March to be honest.

I don’t disagree but that wasn’t the debate.
No question in my mind Kemboy and Al Boum Photo hold the strongest claims at this stage...
 
I don’t disagree but that wasn’t the debate.
No question in my mind Kemboy and Al Boum Photo hold the strongest claims at this stage...

I agree, the debate was over LIT's chances, not BDM & Santini come March..
 
haha. what's your thoughts on GC winner?

Haha just joking - your points regarding LIT are completely valid. I'm siding with ABP and LIT myself - think it will be them two at the last. We will know more after seeing Kemboy and Delta Work this weekend, and Percy and Santini aren't in my thoughts.
 
Haha just joking - your points regarding LIT are completely valid. I'm siding with ABP and LIT myself - think it will be them two at the last. We will know more after seeing Kemboy and Delta Work this weekend, and Percy and Santini aren't in my thoughts.

haha. ABP looks a worthy favourite but defending the GC is a big ask especially in this field, but he has a great chance. Agree on PP and Santini, don't think they have what it takes to win a GC.
 
The song remains exactly the same. Great post Elegantly Tasted.. This race can only be won by 4 possible horses and Al Boum Photo has history to overcome.

ELEGANT ESCAPE
SANTINI
DELTA WORK
AL BOUM PHOTO

Do I get the sense this is ET rebranded?
 
The song remains exactly the same. Great post Elegantly Tasted.. This race can only be won by 4 possible horses and Al Boum Photo has history to overcome.

ELEGANT ESCAPE
SANTINI
DELTA WORK
AL BOUM PHOTO

I’ve just gotta laugh ............ you give Elegant Escape a chance but completely rule out LIT ???
What makes you believe EE can find over 20 lengths on last years performance ???

Anyone can post a comment but you’ve gotta have some substance to it.
 
I’ve just gotta laugh ............ you give Elegant Escape a chance but completely rule out LIT ???
What makes you believe EE can find over 20 lengths on last years performance ???

Anyone can post a comment but you’ve gotta have some substance to it.

I agree! I will never understand Elegant Escape being Tizzard's main chance over LIT.. this will need some serious explanation..
 
Theres about 200 pages if reasons on elegant escape on the general forum. again feel free to read. Hardly no substance.

The welsh national bottomed him last year. He wasnt trying this year as they were angling for a handicap drop for the national.

This time you will learn. Lostintranslation was only ever the horse the industry were manipulating people to back. Absolutely no chance.

I will learn ???? Who are you again ??? Someone special ??? In all honesty your chatting utter sh*t so I think I’ll pass on looking back at your reasoning.
 
I backed elegant escape Ew last year, just hasnt got the gears for this race and if anything maybe last year was its best chance, anyway who is this plank? There is always a wolly
 
Presenting Percy has to be a big doubt tomorrow with the drying ground
 
Presenting Percy has to be a big doubt tomorrow with the drying ground

Add Delta Work to that list too. O'Leary was interviewed today and said unless the rain comes they'll be pulling a fair few of their runners out
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but why don’t they just keep watering after racing on the first day? Trainers are much less likely to pull their horses if it turned softer rather than faster ground? I’m no clerk of a course but is that too simple?
 
I want to back PP for Gold Cup, but dont know to wait until the day, might be offers, boosts, extra places etc. However, IF he wins today, what price does he go? I think he will run a solid race today and go very close in March, far better campaign this season!
 
I want to back PP for Gold Cup, but dont know to wait until the day, might be offers, boosts, extra places etc. However, IF he wins today, what price does he go? I think he will run a solid race today and go very close in March, far better campaign this season!

5/1 - the same price they’ve made every other horse who’s gone and won a trial, without pushing anything else out the other way, creating a bookmaker’s wet dream of a market!