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Cheltenham Gold Cup 2020

Things will be clearer by 4pm on Sunday.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Whilst I agree in the main about opinions as facts ‘Envoi runs in the Ballymore 100%’ for example, I’m not sure Super Ravens post is the same here. Nobody can possibly think it’s being stated as a fact when it’s a predictions. As if he’s ITK as to LIT winning exactly by 1.5 lengths.
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Perhaps, but if you're going to post bold predictions that are clearly designed to invite a reaction, at least put some effort into WHY you think that?

TCH29 said:
Yeah, I see it as a bullish prediction. I’m sure it’s meant like that too not a “fact”.

If it is a fact, i’m keen to hear Raven’s other facts!
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Would the forum be enjoyable if we all just posted one line bullish predictions without any substance? I don't think so... but I don't make the rules. (I just get to enforce some:highly_amused:)

quevega said:
:encouragement:
Yep, care required.
There's been plenty of intelligent and respected members guilty of playing the race target 100% game.

mysterious character though this Super Raven.
reminds me of the mysterious mild mannered janitor.
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Maybe it bugs me more than anybody else :concern:
 
Would the forum be enjoyable if we all just posted one line bullish predictions without any substance? I don't think so... but I don't make the rules. (I just get to enforce some)

Be like a graffiti wall wouldn't it.

Obviously some would still be of Banksy quality.

But mostly it would be a long list of people saying stuff like .. .....

Super Raven woz ere !
 
Presenting Certainty iz da best

I.D.S.T
 
Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.
Kevloaf said:
No opinions stated as facts please ... it can cause confusion and derail a thread.


Why do you think lostintranslation will win the Gold Cup?
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yes just a prediction but I have a strong feeling on this one.. apologies for the confusion.
Middle_Of_March said:
Whilst I agree in the main about opinions as facts ‘Envoi runs in the Ballymore 100%’ for example, I’m not sure Super Ravens post is the same here. Nobody can possibly think it’s being stated as a fact when it’s a predictions. As if he’s ITK as to LIT winning exactly by 1.5 lengths.
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Super Raven said:
Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.
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Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure
 
Definitely, think it all points towards a strong run for LIT. I am confident.
charlie said:
Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure
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charlie said:
Absolutely agree with all of that. LIT has definitely replaced Native River as the Gold Cup number 1 of the Tizzard yard that's for sure
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Agreed too - he's definitely still a big contender in the race. This weekend will determine more changes in the market but I still think LIT is great value atm. Can't have Santini at all.
 
Not saying LIT or Kemboy cant win but both untried over trip of gold cup , take Clan D O for example cruised around and didnt get up hill , Might Bite another one and so on and so on. Will need optimum going to win in my opinion.
 
Super Raven said:
Travelled poorly throughout the race in the KG, got himself into contention when clearly not travelling well, reached at the jump that ultimately cost him his chance. I think if he travels well early and gets himself into a position he will be difficult to beat. Good record at Cheltenham whereas there are question marks against the likes of CDO, Santini and Kemboy who are ahead of him in the market. ABP the obvious danger. what are your thoughts? I backed him for the KG so believe he has a strong chance at course he knows well over fences.
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I really like Lostintranslation now. I didn't before the season started though, so never been a backable price.

I can't really rule out any of the shortest 7 in the betting though so it's not a race that I'm heavily invested in yet
 
The Beast said:
Not saying LIT or Kemboy cant win but both untried over trip of gold cup , take Clan D O for example cruised around and didnt get up hill , Might Bite another one and so on and so on. Will need optimum going to win in my opinion.
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Tis a decent point. Very rare to KNOW a horse stays 3m2f before it runs in this race.

Percy and Elegant Escape have won over further. ABP doesn't need to prove it. Santini looks like he will be not proven. Which for most others may also be true
 
I agree, such a strong GC field. I just like the fact he's got a good record round Cheltenham, more unexposed than others over the trip and there is a lot of scope for improvement with him having beat BDM round haydock pretty effortlessly, looked like he had a lot more in reserve and I really think BDM would have beaten Santini on Saturday if he didn't make a mess of 3 out..

Kevloaf said:
I really like Lostintranslation now. I didn't before the season started though, so never been a backable price.

I can't really rule out any of the shortest 7 in the betting though so it's not a race that I'm heavily invested in yet
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Kevloaf said:
Tis a decent point. Very rare to KNOW a horse stays 3m2f before it runs in this race.

Percy and Elegant Escape have won over further. ABP doesn't need to prove it. Santini looks like he will be not proven. Which for most others may also be true
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Suppose there is a question mark on whether he stays the trip but seeing him stay on strongly at haydock and then he was never travelling at Kempton but still got himself into a winnable position before a mess of a jump makes me feel more confident he stays. Going to be an incredible race to watch.
 
Super Raven said:
I really think BDM would have beaten Santini on Saturday if he didn't make a mess of 3 out..
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Not a view I get.
BDM made a mistake and Santini went past him, 50 yards later BDM was back in front and stayed there as Santini met both the next and last fence on a wrong stride yet powered away for a comfortable win.
March is a different race of course but I can see nothing in BDM to convince me he finishes ahead of Santini...
 
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