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Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

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I backed CDO with Hills any race at 22s thanks to someone championing him on here. Whoever that was thank you.
 
I have CDO at 65s and 50s on the exchange but more interestingly a £2.50 ew double at 50s with Adjali at 33s. I also have a back-up CDO / Quel Destin ew double. I'm hoping the dream is still alive after 13:35 ☺
 
Nortons who said:
I have CDO at 65s and 50s on the exchange but more interestingly a £2.50 ew double at 50s with Adjali at 33s. I also have a back-up CDO / Quel Destin ew double. I'm hoping the dream is still alive after 13:35 ☺
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Very speculative.

Looking nice now :encouragement:
 
Does anyone else think that Anibale Fly looks potentially over priced on the Exchange at the moment. He ran well in the GN under a heavy weight and OK in last year's GC. I guess we will know more after tomorrow.
 
Nortons who said:
I have CDO at 65s and 50s on the exchange but more interestingly a £2.50 ew double at 50s with Adjali at 33s. I also have a back-up CDO / Quel Destin ew double. I'm hoping the dream is still alive after 13:35 ☺
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Nice! Wish you the best of luck after that
 
Now THAT was more Gold Cup winner than the King George :devilish:
 
Get Elegant Escape in here
 
darlojim said:
Beat Yala Enki around 5L receiving 3lbs, wouldnt get anywhere near in a GC for me
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Plod
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Would get close to winning any Gold Cup though?



Absolute dour stayer. Not disgraced in the Hennesy. There are loads worse bets than Elegant Escape at 40/1 ew


plod plod plod. Boat Boat Boat.


I've said this before but will say it again. Ever since Synchonised won the Gold CUp, I've vowed never to ignore a dour stayer again in this race.

Flashy horses don't win Gold Cups unless they're super stars. I don't think Clan Des Obeaux is a superstar, and CDO is 10/1, at 4 times the price, I would prefer the one I am more confident would get the trip.
 
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Yep, Doubt Clan Des Obeaux would have been able to win the Welsh National.
And pretty sure he can't win the Gold Cup.
Did it well yesterday though.
 
Taken the 40's for Elegant Escape in here too. Surprised by the price after the Welsh National win. People can dismiss the form of a Welsh National, this and that but he's as solid and reliable a horse as you can with few question marks hanging over him.

Never runs a bad race. Form of 2212133121 over fences. Stays all day. Second season novice. Jumping also markedly better today. Being honest he looks far more like a National horse than a Gold Cup horse and it would have to be a below par Gold Cup for him to feature let alone win but it's starting to look like that'll be the case. Of the English (now the Betfair and KG are done) - Might Bite looks gone. Native River, despite many taking positives from his last 2 runs hasn't looked the same horse to me this year. Kempton was always going to be a struggle but he's used to pouring it on from the front. I haven't seen that since. Thistlecrack won't stay. Waiting Patinetly still has a huge ? at 3 miles let alone 3m2 and the track. Bristol de Mai is still a Haydock bully. Clan des Obeaux for all he won the King George with plenty in hand, before yesterday was no better a chance than EE. Both 6 years old. CdO actually has 2 more chase runs (12 v 10). CdO obviosuly now has a stronger chance in this race but the English challengers are sparse. 20/1 like most other bookies and I wouldn't get involved but for me 40/1 is a good price.

The Irish are still to come but that isn't exactly going to plan for some that side of the sea either.
 
Talking of the Irish...For us Presenting Percy believers...

When do we start getting a tad concerned of him not running? I'd trust Pat Kelly in literally any prep run(s) for this. Wouldn't surprise me if they looked at the Galmoy Hurdle at Gowran again in January and he could run him over the flat and i'd still trust there's a viable reason in doing so. But not running is a concern and we're now going to tick over into the New Year with him yet to have a run despite being on the go since the Summer.

Connections have come out many times is saying he needs a fair bit of racing to get him right. He's a horse who had 6 runs prior to his Pertemps win in 2017. That even included running him around 2 and a half weeks before the Festival when many felt he had blown his mark for said race. In the lead up to the RSA - he ran 5 times, again getting a prep run close in in February.

For a horse who has had 5-6 runs before the last 2 festivals, it's far from ideal. Yes - all trainers in Ireland are facing the same issue but the evidence of his career runs would suggest he could need more runs than your 'average' horse? The positive to take from those February runs is there's slightly more flexibility there than a horse who would need plenty of time between his races (i.e no later than the Dublin festival / early Feb) so it's not like a horse who would need plenty of time between his last race and the Festival.
 
I said on here somewhere (possibly on last years RSA thread after he won) that the trainer for Presenting Percy would worry me.

He’s way of prepping PP is bonkers imo. He won last year DESPITE that bonkers prep over the wrong trip against Our Duke.

It’s going to be January before we’ve even seen him despite them saying two months ago he was ready to run. Madness.
 
Surely they need at least two runs into him before the Gold Cup; and they are running out of time to do so
 
Can’t have EE. Don’t like fancy each way prices about a horse that can’t win.
 
Presenting Percy's position at the head of ante-post betting for the Magners Cheltenham Gold Cup continues to solidify in his absence, and it now looks increasingly as if last year's RSA Chase hero will follow a similar route back to Cheltenham.
Trainer Pat Kelly had warned it was unlikely he would run his stable star in Friday's Savills Chase at Leopardstown if significant rain didn't arrive, so it was no surprise the seven-year-old did not feature among the final declarations on ground that was on Thursday officially described as good on the chase course.
Last season, Presenting Percy's final two outings ahead of the festival came when he won the Galmoy Hurdle and finished second to Our Duke in the Red Mills Chase.
Those two Gowran Park races, the first of which is scheduled to take place on January 24 and the second just over three weeks later on February 16, would form the preferred route back there now, according to the horse's owner Philip Reynolds.

The alternative plan would be to go to Cheltenham on the back of running in the Unibet Gold Cup at Leopardstown on February 3.
Reynolds said: "I wouldn't be surprised if we went back for the Galmoy Hurdle now, and then the Red Mills Chase. He has to run over fences and it would be nice to get two runs into him, so that would be my preference at the moment.
"It's either that or come back here in February for the Gold Cup, and just give him that one run."
With this year's Gold Cup one-two Native River and Might Bite among the contenders who have failed to make a real impact this term, Presenting Percy remains steady in the Gold Cup betting at a top-priced 9-2.
Clan Des Obeaux's odds plummeted from 50-1 to a top-priced 10-1 following his heroics in the King George VI Chase, but it is Reynolds' horse, who has not been seen since March 14, that is making the market.
"It's desperately frustrating," Reynolds admitted of the delay. "Pat is fairly philosophical about it. He keeps reminding me there's one day for this horse this season and that's Gold Cup day.
"We don't want to leave it somewhere else, so what can we do? The horse is ready to run but we just have to be patient."
 
Garrison Savannah said:
Can’t have EE. Don’t like fancy each way prices about a horse that can’t win.
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Why can't Elegant Escape win the Gold Cup?

Lord Windemere won. Plodder

Native River won. Synchronised won - both having won the Welsh National.

It's 1/40 that he doesn't win, but I think that I've just named 3 pretty fair horses with a similar profile that have won within the last 7 years?
 
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