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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

darlojim said:
interesting that King Roland was taken out of the betting by alot of bookies yesterday and today is out for the season with a pelvic injury :rolleyes:

Obviously was unlikely to be going after LTO but still..
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Never ceases to amaze. The psychic qualities of bookmakers.
 
The Big Breakaway must be over his knock as he’s entered up at Ascot (2m3f) and Haydock (3m) on Saturday. I’m glad they’ll be able to get another run into him.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
The Big Breakaway must be over his knock as he’s entered up at Ascot (2m3f) and Haydock (3m) on Saturday. I’m glad they’ll be able to get another run into him.
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Another run....think that'll mean he's more likely to go UP in trip to the Bartlett?

Then again, I doubt they've planned it.... suppose the actual trip he does run at and result are more key indicators.
 
Kevloaf said:
Another run....think that'll mean he's more likely to go UP in trip to the Bartlett?

Then again, I doubt they've planned it.... suppose the actual trip he does run at and result are more key indicators.
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Only three career starts (two this season) and skipped his bumper season is not the normal path to the Albert Bartlett. However, throw in the Tizzard factor and I’m still not sure where he’ll end up. For me, the fact he’s running is the main thing as at least the slight knock was definitely nothing serious.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Only three career starts (two this season) and skipped his bumper season is not the normal path to the Albert Bartlett. However, throw in the Tizzard factor and I’m still not sure where he’ll end up. For me, the fact he’s running is the main thing as at least the slight knock was definitely nothing serious.
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Yeah I think you're right. As I was writing it I was going off the idea myself. It's because that's what I'd backed him for so was looking for some confirmation bias, but it isn't there.:stupid:
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Only three career starts (two this season) and skipped his bumper season is not the normal path to the Albert Bartlett. However, throw in the Tizzard factor and I’m still not sure where he’ll end up. For me, the fact he’s running is the main thing as at least the slight knock was definitely nothing serious.
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Dickie Diver showing up last year got me thinking that maybe the race is changing slightly ...its still kinda new and it would be interesting to analysis the quality of the 3m in years when we have a Samcro/Envoi situation

i am probably pocket talking but would be suprised if THYNE HILL runs here. The Champion Bumper is a poor trial for this. How often does a young horse go up a mile in Championship races in a year ? and when i tweeted about staying at 2m 5f ..Richard Johnson likedd the tweet :encouragement:
 
JackieMoon33 said:
The Big Breakaway must be over his knock as he’s entered up at Ascot (2m3f) and Haydock (3m) on Saturday. I’m glad they’ll be able to get another run into him.
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Excellent, thanks Jackie. That Skybet 20/1 mistake looking juicy now
 
Grinch said:
Dickie Diver showing up last year got me thinking that maybe the race is changing slightly ...its still kinda new and it would be interesting to analysis the quality of the 3m in years when we have a Samcro/Envoi situation

i am probably pocket talking but would be suprised if THYNE HILL runs here. The Champion Bumper is a poor trial for this. How often does a young horse go up a mile in Championship races in a year ? and when i tweeted about staying at 2m 5f ..Richard Johnson likedd the tweet :encouragement:
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Last years race (Albert Bartlett) was an anomaly as inexperienced horses filled the places. It could be a sign of things to come as some expensive purchases have skipped their bumper season in order to expedite the process of getting them over fences.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Last years race (Albert Bartlett) was an anomaly as inexperienced horses filled the places. It could be a sign of things to come as some expensive purchases have skipped their bumper season in order to expedite the process of getting them over fences.
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last year the ground played a part in horses having less runs ...but i suspect in the next 5 years we will higher median ratings from AB winners and more in the way of future chasers emerging . taking out Bobs Worth the tendancy has been towards the race producing hurdlers ..the reputation it has of a slog etc is helped by the successes of some of those who have finished down the field ..and its on the new course ..generally on decent ground ..lets see
 
Blue for The Big Getaway again today. Envoi Allen trading around 2.82 on the machine which is as big as I’ve seen in a while
 
AnFiieLD. said:
Blue for The Big Getaway again today. Envoi Allen trading around 2.82 on the machine which is as big as I’ve seen in a while
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That's probably just adjusting to a realistic price.... he's been "too short" for a while compared to what he'll be during the preview circuit etc...
 
Any Elixir Dainay or Longhouse Poet backers retaining faith in these two for this race? Been close to cashing them both the last couple of days....
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Any Elixir Dainay or Longhouse Poet backers retaining faith in these two for this race? Been close to cashing them both the last couple of days....
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I would cash them both out, not just because they don't look good enough but they'd have to be more likely to run in the AB than here no?
 
charlie said:
I would cash them both out, not just because they don't look good enough but they'd have to be more likely to run in the AB than here no?
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I thought the fact the owners sponsor the Ballymore means they will probably favour that race for LP no? And could still see him running into a place at 33/1.

ED was so keen last time I'd be amazed if they want to step him up in trip? If he can reproduce the Lawlors of Naas run, he'd probably be placed too wouldn't he?!
 
Elixir looked a bit keen for the AB at Dublin.

Doesn't look good enough for the Ballymore though.
 
Can't Catch Me said:
I thought the fact the owners sponsor the Ballymore means they will probably favour that race for LP no? And could still see him running into a place at 33/1.

ED was so keen last time I'd be amazed if they want to step him up in trip? If he can reproduce the Lawlors of Naas run, he'd probably be placed too wouldn't he?!
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EA has dispatched of LP with relative ease so I see no reason why connections wouldn't go Albert Bartlett has his run at the DRF was very encouraging. If EA & ED both go here then LP would have to reverse the form with both, and whatever we have this side of the Irish sea, which I just don't see. You make a good point re ED and how freely he race so I would probably cash LP and leave ED, if it were me.
 
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