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Arkle 2020

Don’t think Breaken was slowing up there. Kev I was in the same boat very close to backing in play. Left it though
 
My view was it was a fall of a tired horse. Dunvegan had closed the gap from about 20l to 10l 2 fences earlier and would have Landed about 5l down and gone on to win easily.
 
Scooby 91 Fanion D'estruval brought by owner David Wilson and Trainer Venetia Williams
 
charlie said:
Sure but it’s an Irish dominated market. Could end up JLT too, I certainly hope so.
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Surely he’ll go Arkle, Charlie? Venetia has already referred to him as “a speedy type” and i’m pretty sure said the Arkle was the target.
 
TCH29 said:
Surely he’ll go Arkle, Charlie? Venetia has already referred to him as “a speedy type” and i’m pretty sure said the Arkle was the target.
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Do you have a link?
 
One iv backed for this early on in the season is precious cargo but I don't think iv seen him being entered up. Is there any news on him?

I can cash out for most of my stake and I'm thinking about doing so if he doesn't run soon
 
Hes entered on Tuesday not sure if he will get declared though, I thought they saw him as a 2 mile horse and the race hes entered in is over 2m 4f, but youll find out tomorrow
 
billymag said:
Hes entered on Tuesday not sure if he will get declared though, I thought they saw him as a 2 mile horse and the race hes entered in is over 2m 4f, but youll find out tomorrow
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I thought so too, that's why I backed him for the this, I think he looks a 2 miler as well.

I won't be backing him for the JLT......if he is any good I'd have thought hendo would target this race as he doesn't seem to have 1 for the arkle at the moment, not one that I can think of anyway....champagne platinum maybe
 
Post race Tornado Flyer comments

7Dec19 Navan (17Sft, RPR 152)
He was always going to be a class horse. Willie [Mullins] said 'just keep you powder dry early on'. For a race of that class they probably didn't go that much of a gallop for the first half mile and he was caught a little bit flat footed off the hill. Once I got him balanced down to the last, I knew he'd have a good jump in him and he put it to bed nicely. For a race that wasn't run at break-neck speed, I thought it was a good performance over two miles and one furlong - you wouldn't have to say he'll go further but it will be an option. He's got a bit of class and over fences there could be more to come at that trip, and he can step up also. Most of these horses have either come from France or been point-to-pointers and have huge experience jumping, whereas this lad went straight into a bumper. He's going to be improving all the time and has got the engine, which is the main thing - Danny Mullins, rider of Tornado Flyer
 
I've not backed him so don't care.
And haven't tried to track down any quotes, but..
On the FF podcast.
Barry Orr of Betfair said that skelton had suggested the kingmaker next for Nube Negra then likely to skip cheltenham for aintree.

Just a heads up for any backers that hadn't heard this.
No idea if it's true or will happen. But it is something Skelton has done before.
You make your own minds up.

If anyone has any direct quotes that'd help.
 
Last Saturday in the analysis of the Henry viii novice chase (racing post). "trainer Skelton felt the ground was a bit softer than ideal and his gelding will go to the Kingmaker and then Aintree missing Cheltenham"
 
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Cheers Q for the heads up. I have Nube Negra a few times but have no cash out option on them so that looks another hit. Has anyone heard anything about Getaway Trump? The cash out has been taken away in all bets I’ve got him involved with?
 
The King Pimm said:
Cheers Q for the heads up. I have Nube Negra a few times but have no cash out option on them so that looks another hit. Has anyone heard anything about Getaway Trump? The cash out has been taken away in all bets I’ve got him involved with?
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Going back over hurdles- Christmas hurdle the target i believe.
 
The King Pimm said:
I did read that somewhere Jack but do you think they’ll completed abandon chasing with him this season??
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More than likely. Hasn't hit the ground running. CH is wide open. Always next year.

Not sure he's up to it myself but sure, 155 (2 behind KD as a novice), if he could find 10pds from somewhere he'd be in the mix anyway.
 
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