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Arkle 2020

I did read that somewhere Jack but do you think they’ll completed abandon chasing with him this season??

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a couple of leg stretches over timber then suddenly appeared with a Grand Annual entry, this really is a yard you have to read between the lines....
 
Not sure he's up to it myself but sure, 155 (2 behind KD as a novice), if he could find 10pds from somewhere he'd be in the mix anyway.

A ridiculous rating it was too, IMO.
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a couple of leg stretches over timber then suddenly appeared with a Grand Annual entry, this really is a yard you have to read between the lines....

I hope so, I think there was plenty improvement to come over fences from him and felt not all was lost after just 2 attempts
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a couple of leg stretches over timber then suddenly appeared with a Grand Annual entry, this really is a yard you have to read between the lines....

He only had 2 so he cant run in the grand annual. Saving his novice status for next year

A genuine CH campaign.
Anyone can debate all day long about whether hes good enough, but he has every right to be in the christmas hurdle.
 
He only had 2 so he cant run in the grand annual. Saving his novice status for next year

A genuine CH campaign.
Anyone can debate all day long about whether hes good enough, but he has every right to be in the christmas hurdle.

Beaten over Christmas. 1 more chase run. Bam, Grand Annual fav :p



Best to attempt to lose novice status in a festival race and he might improve again next year.




He's got no chance at all in a Champion Hurdle. None. Nil. His only redeeming quality is his jumping of a fence. Improved for it and that still only makes him a handicapper :p
 
Beaten over Christmas. 1 more chase run. Bam, Grand Annual fav :p



Best to attempt to lose novice status in a festival race and he might improve again next year.




He's got no chance at all in a Champion Hurdle. None. Nil. His only redeeming quality is his jumping of a fence. Improved for it and that still only makes him a handicapper :p


He wont be out of place in the christmas hurdle, he might even win. Who knows.


They should know through grand sancy up against fusil raffles previously, whether they atleast feel its worth while or not.
 
He wont be out of place in the christmas hurdle, he might even win. Who knows.


They should know through grand sancy up against fusil raffles previously, whether they atleast feel its worth while or not.

I hope Nube Negra wins the Christmas Hurdle, goes less than 10/1 for the CH and I'll just stop doing ANY other betting and just lay him for the CH.

10% ROI will do just fine.





I didn't fancy Nube Negra for a Fred Winter so I'm never going to buy into this :p




I do see your point through Grand Sancy/Fusil Raffles but to me that just means they're all way behind what'd be needed.
 
I hope Nube Negra wins the Christmas Hurdle, goes less than 10/1 for the CH and I'll just stop doing ANY other betting and just lay him for the CH.

10% ROI will do just fine.





I didn't fancy Nube Negra for a Fred Winter so I'm never going to buy into this :p




I do see your point through Grand Sancy/Fusil Raffles but to me that just means they're all way behind what'd be needed.

Are we talking about Nube Nega or Getaway Trump here ?:confused:
 
:highly_amused: my mistake again.




I should just retire for the evening.
 
Bapaume can jump a fence- stick to 2miles? doesn't find a whole lot.

Form obviously not all that serious.

Yep good assessment jack. His jumping really is excellent, and I'd think Arkle could be the right race for him for all that he did seem to get 3m ok as a hurdler!

Think he's a fair way off that class over fences though.
 
Yep good assessment jack. His jumping really is excellent, and I'd think Arkle could be the right race for him for all that he did seem to get 3m ok as a hurdler!

Think he's a fair way off that class over fences though.

So far he is, but for me he could be one to run in an Arkle, sit quiet and jump his way into it, and hopefully have a finishing effort like footpad. Obviously he isn't the one i massively favour for it right now, but i could sort of see it.
 
Yep he's on my watchlist for it. Especially if it came up soft. 40/1 with Paddy.... But only 16's for the JLT.
 
Yep he's on my watchlist for it. Especially if it came up soft. 40/1 with Paddy.... But only 16's for the JLT.

He's stayed further over hurdles, but that last run was alarming. Mullins also said he'd have run over 2 at fairyhouse on Saturday if it wasn't for all the chase races being cancelled. Wonder have powers potentially missed that.