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Arkle 2020

I think Thomas Darby, provided he can jump a fence, looks nailed on for a place, at minimum, and at 25/1 is my main bet so far, though I do have Sharjah at smaller stakes and expecting to cash out soon enough though.

Early free bet used on Draconien too, Melon will only be backed 'any race' until I see him over a fence.

Cashed FD out after the news earlier.
 
Did anyone have news on Quick Grabim, do we know if hes staying over hurdles or going chasing?
 
Morley Street said:
For me a lot will depend on the noises coming out of Closutton. I’ve taken early positions on both Melon & Draconien. Melon might be the one but at the least will be a good benchmark for anything else than Mullins targets the race with?
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Draconien has never excited me personally, but nothing really does in the market this year and theres no standout. That's for sure.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I think Thomas Darby, provided he can jump a fence, looks nailed on for a place, at minimum, and at 25/1 is my main bet so far, though I do have Sharjah at smaller stakes and expecting to cash out soon enough though.

Early free bet used on Draconien too, Melon will only be backed 'any race' until I see him over a fence.

Cashed FD out after the news earlier.
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Despite my win worries with him.
I certainly wont knock TD at all as an EW bet. Hes a big, big, price too.
One I'd be deffinately be backing at 25s EW with cashout.
 
Scooby91 said:
Draconien has never excited me personally, but nothing really does in the market this year and theres no standout. That's for sure.
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I know what you mean but it was just Mullins’ comments about how much he had matured at the beginning of last year and “being in the same league as Footpad” that I keep playing back. If he makes anything like the same noises this year then 33s will look huge. Clearly a fragile sort tho so a bit of a leap of faith.
 
One I like at a price for this is Rouge Vif. Currently 33s available and his form last year was pretty solid finished in front of Thomas Darby at Kempton and beat Getaway Trump at Kelso. His jumping at times was a bit clumsy so hope that improves over fences. If Felix Desjy doesn't make it I could see him bowling along in front and getting into a rhythm. Hopefully will run on Saturday in what could be a hot race with the current entries and we'll get an early idea where he ranks.
 
Have given in and backed Thomas Darby for this. I still think he'll be better over further and hope he'll turn out in the JLT. Think 2 miles might just be too quick for him but at 25s with b365 it's a no brainer when both trainer and jockey have earmarked openly that this is his target to work back from.
 
Out of the top 20 in the market you can put a line through over half of them (Laurina, Klassical Dream, Band Of Outlaws, Malone Road, Samcro, Champ, City Island, Fusil Raffles, Summerville Boy, Aramon). The likes of Thomas Darby, Getaway Trump and Angels Breath could all easily emerge as players in this but I just think the Irish hand will be stronger. Willie has won 4 out of the last 5 and once you have put lines through everything that runs elsewhere, Melon stands out and I think is still a decent bet @ 12/1. Draconien is a complete punt at this stage, but I am happy to have these two in the book, plus 2 free bets on Thomas Darby @ 25/1.

The one I have just added is Fakir D'oudairies @ 25/1 with B365 (as short as 14's elsewhere). I know there is a chance he stays hurdling but they have mentioned chasing and I think JOB will have unfinished business with the race after their bad luck with Le Richbourg last year. We know he handles Cheltenham. It's speculative but with B365 being the best priced and with cash out, it seems the right horse and price to add all things considered.
 
Interesting one is Five O Clock for Ricci and Mullins - 365 price is at 12/1 while Sky Bet price it as 40/1. Joe Chambers suggested he would go chasing but Ricci has said he will go hurdling this season but 'a chaser in the making' - just one to keep an eye on anyway whether he does go hurdling or chasing as seems to be held in high regard.
 
charlie said:
Out of the top 20 in the market you can put a line through over half of them (Laurina, Klassical Dream, Band Of Outlaws, Malone Road, Samcro, Champ, City Island, Fusil Raffles, Summerville Boy, Aramon). The likes of Thomas Darby, Getaway Trump and Angels Breath could all easily emerge as players in this but I just think the Irish hand will be stronger. Willie has won 4 out of the last 5 and once you have put lines through everything that runs elsewhere, Melon stands out and I think is still a decent bet @ 12/1. Draconien is a complete punt at this stage, but I am happy to have these two in the book, plus 2 free bets on Thomas Darby @ 25/1.

The one I have just added is Fakir D'oudairies @ 25/1 with B365 (as short as 14's elsewhere). I know there is a chance he stays hurdling but they have mentioned chasing and I think JOB will have unfinished business with the race after their bad luck with Le Richbourg last year. We know he handles Cheltenham. It's speculative but with B365 being the best priced and with cash out, it seems the right horse and price to add all things considered.
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Why a line through Laurina? Ruby said the other day no decision has yet been made re her staying over hurdles or going chasing.
 
Fakir wont get the allowance he got last year, will he?
 
Lobos said:
Why a line through Laurina? Ruby said the other day no decision has yet been made re her staying over hurdles or going chasing.
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I would love Laurina to go chasing but word was she stays hurdling.
 
Lobos said:
Why a line through Laurina? Ruby said the other day no decision has yet been made re her staying over hurdles or going chasing.
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Yeah the owner said she was staying hurdling another year, but being Mullins it could change ofc.
 
Every time I look at the market I just think if Melon takes to fences he just wins this
 
Melon isn't one for me certainly not at the price. He ran one decent race last year with all his other runs being disappointing. Too many questions to answer at this stage
 
at 12/1 you won't get much juice on the each way part of the bet when Melon comes second
 
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