Arkle 2018

[Innoko]

So after watching River Wylde again, i've narrowed down the excuses to three.

1/ Soft Ground.
2/ Not good enough.
3/ North Hill Harvey is the new Arkle.

I keep coming back to 2. :sorrow:

 

[Kevloaf]

So after watching River Wylde again, i've narrowed down the excuses to three.

1/ Soft Ground.
2/ Not good enough.
3/ North Hill Harvey is the new Arkle.

I keep coming back to 2. :sorrow:

Haha that made me laugh :highly_amused:

To elaborate on 2 .... could very well be the supreme last year was rubbish...

Imagine it was number 3

 

[archie]

To elaborate on 2 .... could very well be the supreme last year was rubbish...

I think you'd have to except the first two home given that they were 8 lengths clear of the rest.

Watching River Wylde being taken off his feet, I had an overwhelming vision of Finians Oscar running exactly the same race if he'd have run.

 

[Innoko]

Haha that made me laugh :highly_amused:

To elaborate on 2 .... could very well be the supreme last year was rubbish...

Imagine it was number 3

Always good to have a bit of humour when the pocket has been hit!

It happens quite a lot :highly_amused:

 

[Kevloaf]

I think you'd have to except the first two home given that they were 8 lengths clear of the rest.

Watching River Wylde being taken off his feet, I had an overwhelming vision of Finians Oscar running exactly the same race if he'd have run.

Tom Segal on the Racing Post podcast giving Finian's Oscar the 'big'un' and talking about "us" all making too much of trips....:triumphant: Not my fav pundit/tipster but I'll take what I can get

 

[The Beast]

You kind of knew before the race started what was the likely outcome. Splashed everywhere in tabloids about River Wylde preference for good ground and Harvey for Somme like conditions.

Wouldn't give up the ghost just yet on RW , thought it was very sporting of Henderson to let him run round.

Gave him further schooling around course that he will face comes spring , will be a different proposition comes March.

 

[Scooby91]

Henry de Bromhead reports Petit Mouchoir to be recovering well from the setback that is due to keep him on the sidelines until the early part of 2018.

The six-year-old was an impressive winner on his chasing bow at Punchestown last month but it later transpired he had suffered a minor issue with a joint, forcing De Bromhead to rule him out for the immediate future.

However, De Bromhead is still targeting the Irish Arkle at Leopardstown's new Champions Weekend in February.

He said: "He's good and he's recovering really well. We're definitely on target, hopefully, for the new festival at Leopardstown in early February. That's what we are aiming for."

 

[Kevloaf]

Henry de Bromhead reports Petit Mouchoir to be recovering well from the setback that is due to keep him on the sidelines until the early part of 2018.

The six-year-old was an impressive winner on his chasing bow at Punchestown last month but it later transpired he had suffered a minor issue with a joint, forcing De Bromhead to rule him out for the immediate future.

However, De Bromhead is still targeting the Irish Arkle at Leopardstown's new Champions Weekend in February.

He said: "He's good and he's recovering really well. We're definitely on target, hopefully, for the new festival at Leopardstown in early February. That's what we are aiming for."

Safe to assume that meeting in February will create a lot of Cheltenham favourites!

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Henry de Bromhead reports Petit Mouchoir to be recovering well from the setback that is due to keep him on the sidelines until the early part of 2018.

The six-year-old was an impressive winner on his chasing bow at Punchestown last month but it later transpired he had suffered a minor issue with a joint, forcing De Bromhead to rule him out for the immediate future.

However, De Bromhead is still targeting the Irish Arkle at Leopardstown's new Champions Weekend in February.

He said: "He's good and he's recovering really well. We're definitely on target, hopefully, for the new festival at Leopardstown in early February. That's what we are aiming for."

Good news

 

[Kevloaf]

Finian's Oscar has been given a rating of 155 ... which is the same that Altior had going in to his arkle and the same Yorkhill had going in to his JLT!

That's huge after 2 runs!

 

[Scooby91]

Finian's Oscar has been given a rating of 155 ... which is the same that Altior had going in to his arkle and the same Yorkhill had going in to his JLT!

That's huge after 2 runs!

Just out of interest is modus chase mark based on his hurdle form or is that official 156

He's deffinately worth a mention for the jlt. Small fields but he sprinted away after the last. His jumping can always improve.

 

[Kevloaf]

Just out of interest is modus chase mark based on his hurdle form or is that official 156

He's deffinately worth a mention for the jlt. Small fields but he sprinted away after the last. His jumping can always improve.

Can't be official on what he has done over fences so far...

I never really liked Modus as a hurdler albeit how much I like a horse has no effect on its ability

 

[Kevloaf]

Sceau Royal is 1/20 tomorrow in a two horse race.

Last 3 winners have been Ptit Zig, Bristol De Mai and Top Notch. That is the most interesting thing I can muster up about the 'race.'

 

[Brital]

Just out of interest is modus chase mark based on his hurdle form or is that official 156

He's definitely worth a mention for the jlt. Small fields but he sprinted away after the last. His jumping can always improve.

He was either racing against ponies the other day, or he’s a beast.
I was impressed with him, looks like he’ll make a decent chaser. I think he has always been well thought of and it will be interesting to see how he progresses this year.

 

[Can't Catch Me]

Was really taken with Footpad on debut... jumped beautifully and you'd have to be pretty confident he will be as least as good over fences.

But he's been readily outspeeded in both a Triumph and a Champion Hurdle now and that would be an issue for me. I thought he looked a perfect JLT type, but have seen Willie's quotes that they will try to make an Arkle horse out of him. Think this will be a mistake myself... 2m on good ground just doesn't look likely to bring out the best of him.

 

[Kevloaf]

Hadn't thought to look back at Footpad's end of races ... the one that sticks out is when he was closing down in Ireland though, although you can argue he was doing his best work at the end after being out paced and stayed on?

Still, best race or not, would have a chance in both on what we've seen so far!

 

[Can't Catch Me]

Outpaced and stayed on is exactly how I'd describe them mate!

 

[Innoko]

Simple enough for Sceau Royal earlier. Does jump well and quickly.

Can't quite work out why he is still 25-1, when North Hill Harvey is only 16-1... When only beat by a neck giving 5lbs.

 

[The Beast]

Sceau Royal definitely improving , Simon Munir certainly targets this race with his good uns. Same ownership as Footpad , cant see them both Arkle bound.

 

[Robante]

Sceau Royal definitely improving , Simon Munir certainly targets this race with his good uns. Same ownership as Footpad , cant see them both Arkle bound.

Interesting point that. With Sceau Royal never being tried over further and Footpad’s best hurdle form arguably coming over further is there a chance the owner pulls rank? Were Footpad to go to the JLT then I’d certainly be all over Finian’s for the Arkle (and surely connections would then see this race as just as winnable if not more than JLT. I think he’d have the beating of Petit Mouchoir and don’t see any of the others as genuine win contenders