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2024 Novice Chasers

Quote from Paul Fergusons jumpers to follow

“I spoke with Noel George over the summer and the young trainer confirmed that his exciting five-year- old is to be aimed at novice chases in England this season and could start off at Newbury’s Winter Carni- val. Presumably, should all go well there, the Kauto Star will again come under consideration and his pres- ence will be an fascinating addition to the division”

He definitely looks a live contender for novice chasing on his hurdles rating. I watched his chase debut and he did look impressive but he only got a rpr of 118?

Wonder if that French gold cup target is this year or next.. it reads like it’s a further thought? That race has a good record with 5 and 6 year olds but not many done it in debut chase season. Sounds like the plan to start in November at Newbury for the Grade 2 (2m4) with maybe a tilt at the Kauto Star going off PF comments?

If the French GC was the target this year then you’d be less interested in Cheltenham but the quote “we’re dreaming of winning a French Gold Cup​ with him one day” doesn’t sound like an imminent plan.

He’s definitely on my radar
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Given the timing of the big French races he may be given a break around feb/March

Depends what their main aim is I guess
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Very valid point this.
As Cheltenham addicts we are programmed to believe every horse in training has a March target, raiding the French festivals in May/June after a long UK season is tough so you may well find horses miss the UK festivals and attempt a Punchestown/Auteuil late season double instead, which is a very real possibility for the likes of Lossiemouth...
 
Lobos said:
Doesn't mention the Festival though?
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Fair enough, if they are coming for the Kauto Star would suggest to me if he wins there hed head to the festival, point taken that there are other meetings and prize money. Think the price of 33s make him worth ago though.
 
Michael O’Sullivan gushing about Good Land.

”I’ve sat on him over a fence and he’s electric. He’s dynamite over them. He’s very clever too, so you’d be looking forward to him”

Racing Post Quote. Hence price cut
 
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BookieBasher said:
Michael O’Sullivan gushing about Good Land.

”I’ve sat on him over a fence and he’s electric. He’s dynamite over them. He’s very clever too, so you’d be looking forward to him”

Racing Post Quote. Hence price cut
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He'd be right up there as the AP value at this time especially knowing he's going chasing and over the mid trip plus doubts around pretty much everything else in front of him in the betting. 20/1 is a superb price imo.
 
Lobos said:
He'd be right up there as the AP value at this time especially knowing he's going chasing and over the mid trip plus doubts around pretty much everything else in front of him in the betting. 20/1 is a superb price imo.
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Best 16s now
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Given the timing of the big French races he may be given a break around feb/March

Depends what their main aim is I guess
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There's the Prix Troytown Chase at Autueil in mid March for 5yo+

The winner of that race this year, 5yo Sel Gem ,got 67000 quid !!

Sel Gem went on to win this years French GC

Autueil also offered a bonus of 150,000 pounds for any horse winning two lead up races at the course and then the big one. The prize money in France is insane.
 
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Lobos said:
Still very, very fair. Should be nearer fav in my book.
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Still think he should of gone the AB, said after Dublin he beat stayers well & I think he’d have no issue bossing a few of them up at 3M personally this year wether off the front end or Sat behind horses he’s quicker than.
 
Outlaw said:
Still think he should of gone the AB, said after Dublin he beat stayers well & I think he’d have no issue bossing a few of them up at 3M personally this year wether off the front end or Sat behind horses he’s quicker than.
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trainer has already confirmed he’ll be targeting the turners
 
Nevertoolate said:
trainer has already confirmed he’ll be targeting the turners
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And good luck to him, not many on paper look like heading that way thus far out but I personally don’t think he’s as quick as a few who could deflect ala ITP/FV & wouldn’t be surprised if he ran over further before the season was out.
 
Not sure about Good Land. That Grade 1 at the DRF was ordinary and he got thumped at Cheltenham by 3 of Willies. He might be better for a fence but I'd want to see it first. Suppose the price would collapse, thats the trade off
 
charlie said:
Not sure about Good Land. That Grade 1 at the DRF was ordinary and he got thumped at Cheltenham by 3 of Willies. He might be better for a fence but I'd want to see it first. Suppose the price would collapse, thats the trade off
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He wasn’t himself on the day according to BC

https://www.planetsport.com/horse-racing/news/good-land-try-luck-fences-next-season

Whether that’s entirely accurate or not I think the Ballymore was easily the strongest novice hurdle of the 3 graded races. He’s built for fences & showed loads of scope over hurdles last year, plus he has that essential turn of foot you’ve historically needed in the race. He was unbelievable value at 20/1 & I still think there’s juice at current prices.
 
Hopefully Letsbeclearaboutit gets declared for Gowran on Saturday. Can’t wait to see him over a fence, he’s bred for it & shows plenty over hurdles to say he’ll come on plenty for it too.
 
SeanRock said:
Hopefully Letsbeclearaboutit gets declared for Gowran on Saturday. Can’t wait to see him over a fence, he’s bred for it & shows plenty over hurdles to say he’ll come on plenty for it too.
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Where do you see him going if he takes to fences? I have him for the NHC so far
 
I Like To Move It 40/1 could be a decent enough E/W bet for the Arkle, that said, IF the main protagonists turn up I struggle to see him beating them, but over this side of the Irish Sea he could end up winning a fair few races on the way and his price will be gone, not to mention, if the race cuts up like it normally does a 40/1 place is no bad bet.

I'm struggling to find horses in Britain for the Arkle and he is one that stands out to me.

On the exchanges he is the only British horse in the top 16!!!!

From what I've seen of him I don't think a step up in trip is required at all. He's been soundly beaten twice over the intermediate trip. I do think he prefers better ground, so I wouldn't want it coming up 'Soft' or worse on the day. He's actually unbeaten when the going has been described solely as 'Good'.

He just looks a solid E/W option, more so for those who are book building, at least.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I Like To Move It 40/1 could be a decent enough E/W bet for the Arkle, that said, IF the main protagonists turn up I struggle to see him beating them, but over this side of the Irish Sea he could end up winning a fair few races on the way and his price will be gone, not to mention, if the race cuts up like it normally does a 40/1 place is no bad bet.

I'm struggling to find horses in Britain for the Arkle and he is one that stands out to me.

On the exchanges he is the only British horse in the top 16!!!!

From what I've seen of him I don't think a step up in trip is required at all. He's been soundly beaten twice over the intermediate trip. I do think he prefers better ground, so I wouldn't want it coming up 'Soft' or worse on the day. He's actually unbeaten when the going has been described solely as 'Good'.

He just looks a solid E/W option, more so for those who are book building, at least.
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I agree an have added him recently upon news he was going chasing. He probably won’t win it but can see him racking up a string of wins before Cheltenham and trading much shorter. He might just sneak us a place at 40’s
 
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