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2022 Gold Cup

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Istabraq said:
Scrubbing an Envoi Allen 20/1 Gold Cup/Adayar 50/1 Derby winner double voucher was one of lifes more painful experiences...
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Ouch there , Istabraq !.:nightmare::nightmare:.
 
I actually think Galvin is a very fair price.
He has shown everything you want in a gold cup horse, and is in the form of his life at just the right age. I’d have him at about 7/2 AP so the 6’s is decent and as solid an EW play as you could hope for.
Who else in the race has better credentials for placing? Possibly APT but I’m not a big fan of returning horses and Galvin has already beat him and is a bigger price.

Stands out to me, you’ll never get an EW price on the day - more likely 2/1 - 5/2.
 
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Protektorat for me to. Need to bet that GC virgin.
 
I'll definitely be getting Chantry House in the book again prior to the cotswold.
And think Galvin is the best bet.
Both second season novices.
can't get away from them
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Still a long way to go but if you had had to have a bet right now in this, who would it be? That’s on current prices and ignoring all bets already placed
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I was thinking about this today while listening to a podcast and, for me, it has to be Minella Indo at 10/1.

He beat APT and ABP fair and square last season, having had an equally poor prep on the lead up to the festival. At his best, I think he's the best horse in the race so he's a win only bet for me. He either wins or bombs out completely imo
 
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Milbear0 said:
I actually think Galvin is a very fair price.
He has shown everything you want in a gold cup horse, and is in the form of his life at just the right age. I’d have him at about 7/2 AP so the 6’s is decent and as solid an EW play as you could hope for.
Who else in the race has better credentials for placing? Possibly APT but I’m not a big fan of returning horses and Galvin has already beat him and is a bigger price.

Stands out to me, you’ll never get an EW price on the day - more likely 2/1 - 5/2.
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Agree. I to think he'll go off favourite on the day.
 
Il eat my hat if galvin goes off favourite

Only way he goes off fav for me is injuries to other horses and/or Gordon having an absolute stormer of a week
 
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FinalFurlong91 said:
Il eat my hat if galvin goes off favourite

Only way he goes off fav for me is injuries to other horses and/or Gordon having an absolute stormer of a week
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He's heading that way now. Clipped again today and only good words coming from Gordon. It'll be very close. Let's hope you have a Strawberry Boater:biggrin-new:
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Melon @ 66/1.
Done a write up previously as to why. but even based on the run at Christmas, he has 5 1/4 lengths to find with Galvin but is 11x his price and nearly 15x the price of A Plus Tard.

He just got jostled for position as Galvin came out wide and Patrick seemed to give it up, but was then ridden again. Janidil went past him at the last (or 2nd last,can't remember), but Melon battled back past him and, although I don't have the times of the finishers, visually he looked to be staying on as well as the winner at the line. The extra 2f may well suit, based on the visuals he gave.

Disclaimer: There may be a fair bit of bias in this post as I have him in a double with Tornado Flyer from the King George, however my points still stand :highly_amused:
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Wouldn’t be my best bet, and haven’t actually backed him yet but I thought he could have been an interesting contender last year before going to the Ryanair and denting his otherwise excellent record at Cheltenham in the spring. Still think he had potential at the distance but realistically couldn’t have him above Galvin or APT. May have to cover him though at the price.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I was thinking about this today while listening to a podcast and, for me, it has to be Minella Indo at 10/1.

He beat APT and ABP fair and square last season, having had an equally poor prep on the lead up to the festival. At his best, I think he's the best horse in the race so he's a win only bet for me. He either wins or bombs out completely imo
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I seem to be the only person that sees Minella Indo as a busted flush this season. I see the argument that his prep wasn’t ideal last year before going on to win at Cheltenham but two facile wins then a fall - which clearly showed in his subsequent 4th place run in the Irish gold cup is a sub-ideal prep, not equally poor to this season.

So far he has run somewhat lacklustre at Down Royal (finishing upsides delta work again - similar to the Irish gold performance last year) and subsequently pulled up at Kempton looking like he has no interest in the game.

It’s a big stretch for me to consider him the best value selection considering his best run this year matches his worst from last year. HdB has a problem on his hands. If his next run matches his Kempton performance Rachel may find her choice of gold cup rides narrowed to one.
 
Milbear0 said:
I seem to be the only person that sees Minella Indo as a busted flush this season. I see the argument that his prep wasn’t ideal last year before going on to win at Cheltenham but two facile wins then a fall - which clearly showed in his subsequent 4th place run in the Irish gold cup is a sub-ideal prep, not equally poor to this season.

So far he has run somewhat lacklustre at Down Royal (finishing upsides delta work again - similar to the Irish gold performance last year) and subsequently pulled up at Kempton looking like he has no interest in the game.

It’s a big stretch for me to consider him the best value selection considering his best run this year matches his worst from last year. HdB has a problem on his hands. If his next run matches his Kempton performance Rachel may find her choice of gold cup rides narrowed to one.
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Yep - I totally see the point and that's why I don't see him as an each way bet. He's 10/1, the current gold cup champion, and that is far too big for a horse with festival form that reads 121.

I'd be hoping Jack got the ride anyway tbh, he got a great tune out of MI last season
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Yep - I totally see the point and that's why I don't see him as an each way bet. He's 10/1, the current gold cup champion, and that is far too big for a horse with festival form that reads 121.

I'd be hoping Jack got the ride anyway tbh, he got a great tune out of MI last season
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Surely jack will be on Delta Work and Davy on Galvin?
 
Has anyone cashed out on Eklat De Rire or do people still think he might have a chance or at least placing? I've seen no more entries for him and I'm thinking I can cash out at a profit still and put my money else where. Any thoughts people?
 
Maxfield said:
Has anyone cashed out on Eklat De Rire or do people still think he might have a chance or at least placing? I've seen no more entries for him and I'm thinking I can cash out at a profit still and put my money else where. Any thoughts people?
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I'd say the fact he's in the early entries for the Gold Cup is a good sign he's well at home.
 
Maxfield said:
Has anyone cashed out on Eklat De Rire or do people still think he might have a chance or at least placing? I've seen no more entries for him and I'm thinking I can cash out at a profit still and put my money else where. Any thoughts people?
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….I cashed in the singles but still have it in a few big priced multiples.
 
Maxfield said:
Has anyone cashed out on Eklat De Rire or do people still think he might have a chance or at least placing? I've seen no more entries for him and I'm thinking I can cash out at a profit still and put my money else where. Any thoughts people?
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Same as Eggs, singles have been cashed but I've left a few each way multiples. Only small stakes though. although the cashout looks pretty healthy.
 
Maxfield said:
Has anyone cashed out on Eklat De Rire or do people still think he might have a chance or at least placing? I've seen no more entries for him and I'm thinking I can cash out at a profit still and put my money else where. Any thoughts people?
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I asked the same question the other day, someone said pp/betfair had him at 100/1 so i cashed out, i had him at 66/1 and cashout was full stake so made sense for me.
 
I think the only entry Eklat could have made recently was the Gold cup, in which he was entered.
no other major races he'd be looking at are due for entries just yet.
 
Quevega said:
I think the only entry Eklat could have made recently was the Gold cup, in which he was entered.
no other major races he'd be looking at are due for entries just yet.
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Irish Gold Cup entries next Wednesday may be instructive.
 
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