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2022 Gold Cup

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ABP trots around Tramore, beats nothing by nothing, jumping only looked okay, and gets trimmed from 20/1 to 8/1 with 365 for this. Shows how weak the GC market is at the moment.
 
Thought he looked average enough tbh, certainly wouldn't have him in the top 3
 
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Exar Essay said:
ABP trots around Tramore, beats nothing by nothing, jumping only looked okay, and gets trimmed from 20/1 to 8/1 with 365 for this. Shows how weak the GC market is at the moment.
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I think the 20s had gone before he ran today, was 16s last night.

I wouldn't expect anyone to really think 8/1 is a good price, 14s is still available though - but most people I assume took 20s ago if they have more than 1 dart...

Altior said:
Thought he looked average enough tbh, certainly wouldn't have him in the top 3
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Quite bold to rule out a horse with Gold Cup form of 113 to certainly not be in the top 3.

I wouldn't place lay him.
 
Farce of a race and total p*** take by B365. 14s with Betfair/PP. He certainly was rusty. Mullins always said he'd been running more this year before the GC. Wonder where he'll send him next?
 
It seems like the leading contenders are beating each other (except Galvin?) APT narrowly beats Kemboy in the Savills as last year - and was a good 2nd in the 2021 GC. by Minella Indo. Galvin beats a less than fully fit Minella Indo at Down Royal then narrowly beats APT. ABP following the same timetable as last year so far but was only 3rd in 2021 = downward trend? So maybe the real question is who is best suited by the race - and I think APT just falls short. He should run well again but only be placed. Will Minella Indo get over the KG? The anti-Frodon tactics backfired for a horse that usually tracks the leaders rather than leads. We know Galvin likes Chelt and stays and now has proved himself in Grade Ones. The leading contender for me at the moment.
 
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It seems like the leading contenders are beating each other (except Galvin?) APT narrowly beats Kemboy in the Savills as last year - and was a good 2nd in the 2021 GC. by Minella Indo. Galvin beats a less than fully fit Minella Indo at Down Royal then narrowly beats APT. ABP following the same timetable as last year so far but was only 3rd in 2021 = downward trend? So maybe the real question is who is best suited by the race - and I think APT just falls short. He should run well again but only be placed. Will Minella Indo get over the KG? The anti-Frodon tactics backfired for a horse that usually tracks the leaders rather than leads. We know Galvin likes Chelt and stays and now has proved himself in Grade Ones. The leading contender for me at the moment.
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Pretty much agree with all of this post, except I’ve still got a little itch to scratch with Chantry House. The positivity shown in the betting for the King George suggests there’s real confidence behind the horse, and his price might just be big enough to coax in those willing to find out despite the arguments on here to the contrary.

25’s already under pressure again.
 
Think there's a big horses for courses aspect going on here isn't there. In that horses have either run below/above themselves at courses away from Cheltenham compared to what I'd expect them to come the festival.

Chantry falls into that category of potentially not being suited by Kempton, when we know Cheltenham suits. Tend to agree that 25s is verging on an interesting price to forgive the last run. MI also in the same category.

And I wouldn't mark down any horse for finishing close to Kemboy at Leoparstown, whilst also expecting the two in front of him to finish way ahead if meeting again at Cheltenham.

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3:30 pm Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase (Grade 1) 3m 2f 70y - Friday 18th March


A Plus Tard (FR) 8 Cheveley Park Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE

Ahoy Senor (IRE) 7 Mrs C Wymer & Mr PJS Russell Lucinda Russell

Al Boum Photo (FR) 10 Mrs J. Donnelly Willie Mullins IRE

Allaho (FR) 8 Cheveley Park Stud Willie Mullins IRE

Angels Breath (IRE) 8 Walters Plant Hire & Ronnie Bartlett Nicky Henderson

Asterion Forlonge (FR) 8 Mrs J. Donnelly Willie Mullins IRE

Aye Right (IRE) 9 Geoff and Elspeth Adam Harriet Graham

Carefully Selected (IRE) 10 Miss M. A. Masterson Willie Mullins IRE

Champ (IRE) 10 Mr John P. McManus Nicky Henderson

Chantry House (IRE) 8 Mr John P. McManus Nicky Henderson

Chatham Street Lad (IRE) 10 Mr V. Healy Michael Winters IRE

Conflated (IRE) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

Delta Work (FR) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

Eklat de Rire (FR) 8 Mr P. Davies Henry de Bromhead IRE

Fiddlerontheroof (IRE) 8 Taylor, Burley & O'Dwyer Colin Tizzard

Franco de Port (FR) 7 Bruton Street V Willie Mullins IRE

Galvin (IRE) 8 Mr R. A. Bartlett Gordon Elliott IRE

Imperial Aura (IRE) 9 Imperial Racing Partnership 2016 Kim Bailey

Lostintranslation (IRE) 10 Taylor & O'Dwyer Colin Tizzard

Melon 10 Mrs J. Donnelly Willie Mullins IRE

Minella Indo (IRE) 9 Mr Barry Maloney Henry de Bromhead IRE

Mister Fisher (IRE) 8 James & Jean Potter Ltd Nicky Henderson

Mount Ida (IRE) 8 KTDA Racing Gordon Elliott IRE

Protektorat (FR) 7 Sir A Ferguson G Mason J Hales & L bHales Dan Skelton

Remastered 9 Brocade Racing David Pipe

Royale Pagaille (FR) 8 Mrs S. Ricci Venetia Williams

Run Wild Fred (IRE) 8 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

Saint Calvados (FR) 9 Kate & Andrew Brooks Paul Nicholls

Santini 10 Mr & Mrs R. Kelvin-Hughes Polly Gundry

Tornado Flyer (IRE) 9 T. F. P. Willie Mullins IRE
 
Fakir doudairies, envoi allen and janidil notable omissions
 
Next Destination nowhere to be seen either and see he was taken out of training in December according to the BHA.

I know he isn't exactly a superstar, but high profile enough to expect some form of status update.
 
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Next Destination nowhere to be seen either and see he was taken out of training in December according to the BHA.

I know he isn't exactly a superstar, but high profile enough to expect some form of status update.
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Didn’t know he wasn’t in training. Shame, he’d have been a live outsider I’d have said.
 
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Next Destination nowhere to be seen either and see he was taken out of training in December according to the BHA.

I know he isn't exactly a superstar, but high profile enough to expect some form of status update.
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He’s got very close form with Galvin, would have been nice if that had been more widely publicised imo
 
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Envoi not being in isn't a huge surprise but it sill feels a bit of a moment after many months fantasising over that Shishkin RAB double in particular. Farewell that particular dream, forever in our hearts.
https://youtu.be/k2C5TjS2sh4?t=61
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I’m surprised they haven’t really tried him at 3miles properly to see one way or another if he stays or not. Gordon always felt he was a stayer but hdb hasn’t ever really seemed keen on exploring that route. The John durkan to me he was just poor rather than not staying.
 
Biggest surprise for me in those entries is Angels Breath. No sign of him so far this season and then he pops up here. He was really promising in his novice chases but obviously it's hard to expect much from him after such a long time off. Might chance the 66/1 NRNB though if we see an entry soon.
 
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Biggest surprise for me in those entries is Angels Breath. No sign of him so far this season and then he pops up here. He was really promising in his novice chases but obviously it's hard to expect much from him after such a long time off. Might chance the 66/1 NRNB though if we see an entry soon.
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Surprised he was t in the Ryanair either but just this.
 
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