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2022 Gold Cup

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Id be thinking there's something up at Henry's yard

Most of his horses are running poorly

7% strike rate
30% run to form
 
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FinalFurlong91 said:
Id be thinking there's something up at Henry's yard

Most of his horses are running poorly

7% strike rate
30% run to form
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Ted Walsh made the point on RTE that A Plus Tard beat Kemboy by about the same distance in same race last year so he's ran good enough in all likelihood.
 
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Ted Walsh made the point on RTE that A Plus Tard beat Kemboy by about the same distance in same race last year so he's ran good enough in all likelihood.
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Pointless comparing two races a year apart though really

A plus tard has improved since then and kemboy regressed a few lbs on official figures
 
In terms of where the others finished, I'd say that Kemboy ran pretty much to the same standard as in last year's race. He's decent at Leopardstown.
 
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Well I have Galvin at decent odds and Minella at 10s, Will have to get A Plus Tard onside, at this point I can’t see any other winner. Anyone have any view on any other contender?
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If I were you I would look at adding Protektorat, he looks tailor made for a Gold Cup to me.
Personaly I don’t see how APT reverses with Galvin over the extra distance.
 
Galvin very good today. Hard as nails, doesn't mind a battle, the lad. Won't be fearing the hill like some may end up doing.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
He's some horse. Probably my favourite horse in training right now. It's easy to see him powering up the hill in March as I think he has all the attributes needed for a GC

Riding plans should be:

Galvin - Davy
APT - Rachael
Minella - Jack.

The 10/1 on Minella Indo looks too big to me.
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Gordon kicked Jack off Indo already, doubt he'll let him. He might end up on Samcro or Delta Work.
 
It will be Giggi make that call and they have every right because they pay the retainer. Hopefully, Samcro will be in happy retirement and they will think long and hard about Delta Work.
 
Going to be hard to do the GC / GN double!

Can't believe I've let him slip by at big prices two years on the bounce.

My one concern would be that Davy seemed to be at him quite a bit earlier than Rachael on APT, I think the commentator said "In 3rd and losing ground". Won't want to be off the bridle with 4-5 furlongs left when the pace lifts. Obviously he can stay just thinking he may be shuffled back down the pack a bit in a GC rather than having the clear view he did today.

Someone nit picking and the race has been blown wide open this weekend
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
He's some horse. Probably my favourite horse in training right now. It's easy to see him powering up the hill in March as I think he has all the attributes needed for a GC

Riding plans should be:

Galvin - Davy
APT - Rachael
Minella - Jack.

The 10/1 on Minella Indo looks too big to me.
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Agree entirely re: Minella Indo FM, he saves his best for the Cotswolds every season, I’ll be having some of the 10/1 over the next few weeks!
 
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I would still take apt out of that race over Galvin henry has said many times apt likes to run fresh, maybe the betfair took the edge of him and a nice break now till March when he can come back fresh again. I've got Galvin covered too and he is a big danger but for me apt after a break beats him.
 
Any thoughts on Shan Blue here? Doesn’t look the most obvious stayer but was going to put up a very impressive performance before falling LTO. Been over 3 miles 4 times, 2 wins, a 2nd at aintree when most likely over the top on 6th run of the season, and then the last in the Charlie Hall when would of won at a canter. Might just be getting the trip a bit better now with age and goes very well fresh. That said I would like to know all is well?
 
With the strength in the novice division this year along with having lots of experience for a novice I am a little surprised that Run Wild Fred is not quoted anywhere for this

Been well supported for a grade 1 today
If he wins that comfortably then I think they might consider it

The Gold Cup is looking wide open and could tempt a few from left field

I would of liked to see him priced up before today’s run
 
Inglis Drever said:
Any thoughts on Shan Blue here? Doesn’t look the most obvious stayer but was going to put up a very impressive performance before falling LTO. Been over 3 miles 4 times, 2 wins, a 2nd at aintree when most likely over the top on 6th run of the season, and then the last in the Charlie Hall when would of won at a canter. Might just be getting the trip a bit better now with age and goes very well fresh. That said I would like to know all is well?
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He wouldn't be one for me in this, more likely an Aintree type
 
Henry de Bromhead reports Minella Indo to have returned to Ireland “shook” following his disappointing effort in the Ladbrokes King George VI Chase.

Having made a promising start to his campaign when third at Down Royal, last season’s Cheltenham Gold Cup hero was well fancied for Kempton’s Boxing Day showpiece.

But after matching strides with defending champion Frodon for much of the way, Minella Indo soon weakened out of contention and was eventually pulled up by Rachael Blackmore.

Speaking at Leopardstown on Wednesday, De Bromhead said: “He was shook when he came off the lorry.

“When he came back from Cheltenham, he was as burly as he always would be, (but) I’ve never seen him as tucked up and tightened up as he was the other day.

“We don’t have any obvious reason, but he definitely didn’t come back the way he would normally come back.

“I might have been trying to put a square peg into a round hole, I don’t know.

“The most important thing is to get him back now and get him as good as he can be for the spring, which is when he always seems to turn up in fairness to him.”

A Plus Tard chased home stablemate Minella Indo in the Gold Cup – and having made a spectacular comeback in the Betfair Chase at Haydock last month, the Cheveley Park Stud-owned gelding was a warm order to make it back-to-back wins in Leopardstown’s Savills Chase on Tuesday.

After eventually mastering long-time leader Kemboy, the seven-year-old was denied in the last stride by Galvin, but De Bromhead is taking the positives out of defeat.

“There’s not a bother on him – absolutely great. He ran a cracker and I was delighted with him,” the trainer added.

“The winner was very good and obviously Kemboy’s record around here is second to none. I was amazed he was short (in the betting) as he was, our fella.

“But he ran a cracker and jumped great – they’re the positives. We just didn’t win, sadly.”
 
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Henderson regarding Chantry House

The Seven Barrows handler also offered updates on Chantry House and Mister Fisher, who were both pulled up in the King George VI Chase at Kempton on Boxing Day.

He said: “Some horses just don’t like Kempton sometimes. Chantry House was always flat to the boards and was never really enjoying it. I would think the most likely place he will go is Cheltenham for the Trials day (Cotswold Chase).
 
Inglis Drever said:
Any thoughts on Shan Blue here? Doesn’t look the most obvious stayer but was going to put up a very impressive performance before falling LTO. Been over 3 miles 4 times, 2 wins, a 2nd at aintree when most likely over the top on 6th run of the season, and then the last in the Charlie Hall when would of won at a canter. Might just be getting the trip a bit better now with age and goes very well fresh. That said I would like to know all is well?
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Things can always change but Dan Skelton did mention the Ryanair and then Aintree as potential targets for him in the spring. Can't find the article anymore, but you can see the quote on twitter:

https://twitter.com/Grant_Some92/status/1460711077763821569?s=20
 
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