2022 Gold Cup

[Alexmilton]

I'd add Galvin into that bracket. The 20/1 could look very, very nice after the Savilles

That's a good point.
Connections would surely fancy that after watching MI and CH yesterday. Obviously kempton very different but it would enthuse me if I were them.

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

Seeing CH perform in open company yesterday makes me wonder about the level of form from The Marsh. Not exactly inspiring imo. JP will need a runner in this & 10yo don't win Stayers Hurdles.

It will not de the owners need for a runner.
It will be which race the horse will perform better in and have the best chance of winning.
If that we’re equal then the GC would probably be the choice. But it’s become clear now that the Stayers would be his race.
And forget his age, just look at his last race when not fully fit.

 

[Rooster Booster]

Seeing CH perform in open company yesterday makes me wonder about the level of form from The Marsh. Not exactly inspiring imo. JP will need a runner in this & 10yo don't win Stayers Hurdles.

Trainer but he’s near enough favourite for the stayers and he can’t jump. Owner I realise that but he’ll be 10 in a week so I need him to run here.

 

[Exar Essay]

It will not de the owners need for a runner.
It will be which race the horse will perform better in and have the best chance of winning.
If that we’re equal then the GC would probably be the choice. But it’s become clear now that the Stayers would be his race.
And forget his age, just look at his last race when not fully fit.

I think you’d normally be right, but in JP’s case, he will certainly want a GC horse. That might be Champ, CH, or even Fakir.

 

[Rooster Booster]

I think you’d normally be right, but in JP’s case, he will certainly want a GC horse. That might be Champ, CH, or even Fakir.

Or Janidil

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

I think you’d normally be right, but in JP’s case, he will certainly want a GC horse. That might be Champ, CH, or even Fakir.

Yes he would want a Gold Cup horse, but it will not one that his trainer gives him sound reasoning why that horse should not run in the Gold Cup.
Thats the relationship they have.

 

[Exar Essay]

Or Janidil

Of course. He’d slipped my mind. Maybe one I’ll get in the book before he runs today.

 

[Rooster Booster]

Of course. He’d slipped my mind. Maybe one I’ll get in the book before he runs today.

Yep I think he’s quite interesting . Forgive the pedantry but it’s tomorrow he is running. I think he’ll run a big race in the Savills ...should he win and overturn the current fav it would be tricky to predict what price he’d be....Sky are offering 125 savills gc double.

 

[Exar Essay]

Yep I think he’s quite interesting . Forgive the pedantry but it’s tomorrow he is running. I think he’ll run a big race in the Savills ...should he win and overturn the current fav it would be tricky to predict what price he’d be....Sky are offering 125 savills gc double.

All one big day between 27th and 30th Dec isnt it? :excitement:

Yes, I’ve had a little of the 125/1 for both and a slightly bigger bit on just the GC. I could see him running in gamely behind APT and going 3rd fav.

 

[FinalFurlong91]

He had a back issue. If jumping fences exacerbated that issue then yes, it would have bothered him and explains his poor performances, but if that issues is sorted then why not go for this. He was bought and bred to win a Gold Cup, not a stayers hurdle. It's not like time is on their side either. Were he 7 rising 8, or even 8 rising 9 they could go stayers with next season in mind. If he's ever going to win a GC he has one shot, and its 2022. Imagine him pissing up in the stayers and wondering what could have been.

He mustve been schooling very badly for them to even consider running in the long walk

 

[Lobos]

I think you’d normally be right, but in JP’s case, he will certainly want a GC horse. That might be Champ, CH, or even Fakir.

...........or Cloth Cap

 

[FinalFurlong91]

...........or Cloth Cap

Bit early to start on the mulled wine lobos

 

[Exar Essay]

...........or Cloth Cap

My main concern re Cloth Cap running in the GC for JP is his having to be bought by JP first.

 

[Lobos]

Just testing you guys. Well done, you've passed.

 

[doctorwu]

It will not de the owners need for a runner.
It will be which race the horse will perform better in and have the best chance of winning.
If that we’re equal then the GC would probably be the choice. But it’s become clear now that the Stayers would be his race.
And forget his age, just look at his last race when not fully fit.

I won't be forgetting his age Carnage. Confident he won't be winning either race.

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

I won't be forgetting his age Carnage. Confident he won't be winning either race.

Fair enough.
I won’t be forgetting his form.

 

[Quevega]

Native River retired

 

[Native River]

Native River retired

Well deserved, get him a truck full of Polo's if you ask me. His Gold Cup win will forever remain one of the greatest racing moments I'll ever see, to see him winging round the fences was truly a joy to behold. I'm adament he would've won the grand national at a canter in his prime but will settle for the Gold Cup hey!

 

[Odin]

Well deserved, get him a truck full of Polo's if you ask me. His Gold Cup win will forever remain one of the greatest racing moments I'll ever see, to see him winging round the fences was truly a joy to behold. I'm adament he would've won the grand national at a canter in his prime but will settle for the Gold Cup hey!

Agree on all accounts. It was incredible to be there for his match race with might bite. Absolute legend of the sports recent history as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Rooster Booster]

Agree on all accounts. It was incredible to be there for his match race with might bite. Absolute legend of the sports recent history as far as I'm concerned.

Yep that was like benn versus Eubank .... the street fighter versus the maverick...although probably more appropriate to say holyfield versus Tyson