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2017 Albert Bartlett Novices

If DD & Augusta Kate both stand up then AK must be a better bet at 2/1 a place? not saying DD will not win but if he does then surely AK will not be that far behind him?
 
mullinsmull said:
If DD & Augusta Kate both stand up then AK must be a better bet at 2/1 a place? not saying DD will not win but if he does then surely AK will not be that far behind him?
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If AK coming back after a fall in the last race has not hit her confidence then she is surely banker material for a place, DD is a galloper and just keeps going so definately on him for win now that the target is confirmed.
 
I think Penhill is the overlooked horse in the race, was knocked sidewards when plugging on in the race that Airlie Beach won over 2 miles, then came out over 3 miles and romped home, the second & third has both won very easily since so that form stands up. So he could be the dark horse of the race if DD doesn't like the ground.
 
Please correct me im wrong here guys but i thought i saw somewhere that they werent worried what kind of ground it will be for DD.
 
I don't think Augusta Kate is banker material for a place? The british form might be ahead? Wholestone and West Approach look very, VERY solid and on form deserve to be ahead of her in the market so far? DD also deserves to be ahead of her in the betting, whether you think she'd have gotten past or not, he was ahead when she fell, and he has had a better prep (by not falling).

For me, at absolute best, she is 4th most likely to win out of those 4 horses, so I don't see her as an each way banker at all.

You'd have to think the Irish form was MUCH stronger than the British and I have no reason to think that yet? It could well be, but I don't think so, and the NRNB prices aren't enticing enough?
 
Kevloaf said:
You'd have to think the Irish form was MUCH stronger than the British and I have no reason to think that yet? It could well be, but I don't think so, and the NRNB prices aren't enticing enough?
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I agree that the price right now at 8/1 is in my eyes too short it would only double your money. but if she went to 12/1+ i might have a try at each way and im heavily involved in DD
 
Shaping up to be an absolutely superb renewal this. Best of the Novice races for me.
 
Jonnymac your not wrong I also have seen an article saying the ground is not a problem, but DD has raced on heavy and soft/heavy & soft many times so surely that must be his preferred ground?
 
I think DD has form on soft ground over hurdles but trainer says good won't be a problem, I think his action has been mentioned as the reason and possibly bumper form, but I might be making that bit up... yes, I am making it up...never raced on it.

Bit of a leap of faith then as it is an unknown trip AND unknown ground, however Elliott mentioned DD as his best chance of a winner three times tonight...
 
I agree DD could well be the best horse/bet in the race or even the last days racing but like Can't catch me said this is turning into the best novice race I seen for sometime & for a hot race with unknowns about DD 2/1 to 11/4 is very short.

I not trying to put anyone off or trying to put the horse down, I know a lot of people have got good bets running on him, much bigger than my pennies on penhill anyway..
 
Penhill isn't without his chance.

I have loved this race in previous years. Had a decent bet (relatively to my stakes that year) on Martello Tower.... had one of my biggest ever single bets on Barters Hill last year and I just loved that horse even though it didn't win and this year just looks a cracking renewal!


If I hadn't had a bet, I think I'd fancy Wholestone the most still! I have had a bet though, and DD I think is my best winner. Will check next weekend.
 
Really like West Approach for this, think the form of a 3 length beating by unwimh is rock solid as I see unwimh as my banker of the festival.
 
CauseofCauses said:
Really like West Approach for this, think the form of a 3 length beating by unwimh is rock solid as I see unwimh as my banker of the festival.
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Never managed to get his head in front of Wholestone though has he :devilish:
 
he hasn't, been watching their races all season and wholestone has impressed me, just like the way west approach travels through his races and think he did his chances in both those races with a couple of bad jumps. Thought ruby gave him a lovely ride in the cleve and could have even had a bit closer
 
Gordon Elliot stable tour:

Death Duty

He goes for the Albert Bartlett, definitely. I’d say he’d have the pace for a Neptune but three miles he’s in his comfort zone. I think the race was made for him. He’s a big three-mile chaser in the making and I’ve said from flagfall it’s the race he’ll go for. He probably is a better hurdler than Don Cossack was at the same stage on form but he still has to go and do it when he goes chasing. He hasn’t done too much wrong this year. Nothing fazes him, he’s very laid back and they’re normally the best ones.
 
As above... Death Duty

He will definitely run in the Albert Bartlett. The Neptune isn’t being considered for him. I just think the Albert Bartlett is made for him, he should really be in his comfort zone over three miles. I wouldn’t have any worries about better ground for him. Even if it turned up very soft, we’d just drop him in there and take our time with him. He’s the sort of horse that nothing phases him, he’s very laid back and doesn’t do anything flashy, but they are often the best ones. His form has been solid all the way and it’s hard to knock him. He’s a big three-mile chaser in the making and I’m looking forward to next season with him already.
 
Ruby

I don’t think we’ve got too many dark horses for Cheltenham - most of ours are fairly exposed - but I think Augusta Kate could be sliding under the radar a little bit.

She was challenging Death Duty when she fell at the last in Naas on only her only her second start over hurdles and I think she’s a very good mare who will have a chance in whatever race Willie chooses to run her in.
 
I really like HDB's Monalee for this. I know people will say, well he was easily disposed of by Death Duty at Navan getting 3pds, but i think the step up in trip will definitely help him and also, more crucially he hopefully wont have to set the pace the whole way round. He was essentially a sitting duck at Navan, and its very difficult to win from that position.
Henry has been quoted as saying he's a lovely moving horse and will like the good ground, but i have just bought the Irishfields Cheltenham magazine for a bit of reading, and he now says he thinks he might need it soft?!
I had him down as possibly improving more for the better ground than DD and therefore another reason for overturning the form. I was really taken by the way he disposed of The Storyteller, who has since hosed up. David never moved a muscle, and many (including me) think TS could be interesting at the festival this year.
 
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