2026 Novice Hurdlers

[jrjr]

Theflyingking given an Albert Bartlett mention by Gordy in his latest stable tour.

 

[Big Bucks]

Theflyingking given an Albert Bartlett mention by Gordy in his latest stable tour.

Smashed in! Hes mentioned a few though.

 

[Jrow]

Does nobody think Sober could be Townends ride in the supreme? He won easily enough (against shite) but for a first run wasn't a bad effort considering he's an ex flat horse

 

[Big Bucks]

Smashed in! Hes mentioned a few though.

Edit ignore that! I was looking at ante post market and then nrnb!! Thought he was cut!

 

[FinalFurlong91]

Does nobody think Sober could be Townends ride in the supreme? He won easily enough (against shite) but for a first run wasn't a bad effort considering he's an ex flat horse

Im hoping he runs in the turners

But could go either way

 

[FinalFurlong91]

Sounds like for elliot

El cairos is the main supreme horse and skylight hustle the main turners horse

Then ballyfad coukd be in either, perhaps depending on ground

But youd imagine jack will be on the first 2

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

Sounds like for elliot

El cairos is the main supreme horse and skylight hustle the main turners horse

Then ballyfad coukd be in either, perhaps depending on ground

But youd imagine jack will be on the first 2

Yep, as expected i would have thought.
Probably need to get Bally covered for turners in case, good horse and player in either imo

 

[CJW]

Sober Glory 148

Interesting rating, I hadn't had him down as a contender but he's achieved a good rating. Somewhat over my head though, maybe that will come back to bite me.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Sober Glory 148

Interesting rating, I hadn't had him down as a contender but he's achieved a good rating. Somewhat over my head though, maybe that will come back to bite me.

That's RPR, not OR.

Looking at the way Tutti Qunti won, I'd be taking the performances with a pinch of salt.

Clearly some horses absolutely relished that ground plenty more than others at Newbury. Not one close finish.

It very much reminded of that day at Sandown when Gary Moore's horses almost all went in!

 

[EnvoiAlien]

Theflyingking given an Albert Bartlett mention by Gordy in his latest stable tour.

Mentioned horse had an issue with its jaw too(fracture I think), not been out since he ran against I'll Sort That,thought his head carriage after the last that day was him being ungenuine, I expect that was when he hurt his jaw hence not going through with his effort when Jack got hold of him,would make sense imo.

 

[riccirich]

Mentioned horse had an issue with its jaw too(fracture I think), not been out since he ran against I'll Sort That,thought his head carriage after the last that day was him being ungenuine, I expect that was when he hurt his jaw hence not going through with his effort when Jack got hold of him,would make sense imo.

Was it not theflyingking that there was rumours about him being injured when he hit his head off a door at home?

Could be wrong but I thought that was him

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

What are the thoughts on Sober Glory? He's won three races this season in the style of a very good horse, and the times seem to back that up. I think slow ground helps him and we're almost guaranteed slowish ground on day 1.

Not sure what happened to him at Sandown, as he just didn't show up, but the two races since back up what I thought he might be when he ran at Chepstow.

I doubt the 16/1 will tempt many but I can see him running a really solid race and getting in the mix. I still think he should have been tried over further as it could easily bring more improvement,

 

[ComplyOrDie]

What are the thoughts on Sober Glory? He's won three races this season in the style of a very good horse, and the times seem to back that up. I think slow ground helps him and we're almost guaranteed slowish ground on day 1.

Not sure what happened to him at Sandown, as he just didn't show up, but the two races since back up what I thought he might be when he ran at Chepstow.

I doubt the 16/1 will tempt many but I can see him running a really solid race and getting in the mix. I still think he should have been tried over further as it could easily bring more improvement,

Honestly, I think he'll come up plenty short.

He's beat Kadastral twice now, but I think the latest one was exaggerated because of the ground.

His other win, he was entitled to win as he liked being 2/13f. You expect the same or more of all the better novices.

I'm a bit like you, I think he'd be better out in trip.

If it came up Heavy this would increase his chances in a Supreme.

One other thing, will Harry Cobden stay on him or be swayed to ride one for Willie? He was on The Reverend at the DRF, so I wonder if he'll be back on board him come the day.

 

[riccirich]

What are the thoughts on Sober Glory? He's won three races this season in the style of a very good horse, and the times seem to back that up. I think slow ground helps him and we're almost guaranteed slowish ground on day 1.

Not sure what happened to him at Sandown, as he just didn't show up, but the two races since back up what I thought he might be when he ran at Chepstow.

I doubt the 16/1 will tempt many but I can see him running a really solid race and getting in the mix. I still think he should have been tried over further as it could easily bring more improvement,

I personally dont like backing horses off the back of time figures and winning distances against poor horses etc. I think its all pretty meaningless imo.

His three wins have been in races that dont resemble a supreme in any way shape or form. Uncontested leads against poor horses or horses who aren't trying, and exaggerated winning distances on bad ground. I'm always very wary of such profiles. Especially when you have to draw a line through his one bad run and assume that he wasn't right, even though that happened to be the only race he's had over hurdles that somewhat resembled a competitive race.

There has to be a good chance he was perfectly fine on that day, and just didnt like being taken on, as opposed to having it all his own way in his other three races.

 

[Istabraq]

What are the thoughts on Sober Glory? He's won three races this season in the style of a very good horse, and the times seem to back that up. I think slow ground helps him and we're almost guaranteed slowish ground on day 1.

Not sure what happened to him at Sandown, as he just didn't show up, but the two races since back up what I thought he might be when he ran at Chepstow.

I doubt the 16/1 will tempt many but I can see him running a really solid race and getting in the mix. I still think he should have been tried over further as it could easily bring more improvement,

I'm generally wary of horses who regularly beat up on average animals rather than take on classier opposition.
I think the main thing to take from that run on Saturday was the runner up, Harry was very good, he realised he wasn't getting to the winner and allowed his horse to get beat half the straight, every chance the handicapper will overreact and he'll head for a valuable handicap somewhere later this season on a very favourable mark.
Hobbs would also concern me, I know they have made changes down there but the Supreme is a big boys race...

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

I'm generally wary of horses who regularly beat up on average animals rather than take on classier opposition.
I think the main thing to take from that run on Saturday was the runner up, Harry was very good, he realised he wasn't getting to the winner and allowed his horse to get beat half the straight, every chance the handicapper will overreact and he'll head for a valuable handicap somewhere later this season on a very favourable mark.
Hobbs would also concern me, I know they have made changes down there but the Supreme is a big boys race...

If Hobbs has a good horse he's good at getting them to peak on the big day. Menorah won this for him back in the day.

Understand the concerns from you and others. perhaps he'll drift to a decent each way price if the sexier horses turn up.

 

[robith]

So it really is a mix of stuff. A lot of alternative/indie. A lot of emerging artists. Some more established artists like Nothing but Thieves, Bad Omens, PierceThe Veil. I like rock but not cookie cutter stuff

There’s a HUGE amount of young talent coming out of Ireland at the moment…bands like Florence Road, Bleech 93, Brooki (her voice is insane), Theatre, Clifford’s, Cabl and many many more and more established acts like Just Mustard and New Dad.

Getting a vinyl,of a band right at the start of its career that you believe has potential can be like investing in a novice hurdler before it makes its debut. Florence Road for example released an EP called Fall Back. They made 500 and now you can’t find one for less than £250. Keo released an EP called Siren and a signed copy of one of them goes for a similar amount and these are bands that aren’t household names yet (they will be).

Other emerging bands to watch out for

Racing Mount Pleasant, Westside Cowboy, Maruja, I Promised The World,Die Spitz,Overpass. Wisp and many many many more

There’ are so many parallels between vinyl collecting and building an ante post portfolio. At the moment I only buy something that I enjoy listening to so I’m not yet at the equivalent of building a book but a bit like backing a horse that you don’t fancy in order to lock in a profit there are obvious vinyl investment opportunities that would guarantee a profit even if you don’t like the music. I just can’t bring myself to go there yet.

And following on from what Durham Edition said…finding the right variant from the right supplier is a big part of the appeal.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Sorry to rehijack, but a man of great culture I see. Westside Cowboy going to the moon this year - saw them support Blondshell and they were magic.

If you like Irish up and comers, check out Madra Salach. Very Lankum esue odd trad.

Also Gurriers, love those lads

 

[Istabraq]

If Hobbs has a good horse he's good at getting them to peak on the big day. Menorah won this for him back in the day.

Understand the concerns from you and others. perhaps he'll drift to a decent each way price if the sexier horses turn up.

It does look a stacked Supreme too, you’d have wanted to have seen him against some decent horses by the time the tapes go up no ?

 

[CJW]

Sunday or Thursday next for Mighty Park?

15th February - Listed Sheila Bourke Novice Hurdle (2m)

19th February - Grade 3 Michael Purcell Memorial Novice Hurdle (2m4f)

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

It does look a stacked Supreme too, you’d have wanted to have seen him against some decent horses by the time the tapes go up no ?

Yep, I'd have liked him to have run in deeper company. Not sure if they've deliberately avoided good horses - It was annoying that they split the January Newbury race into two divisions, as he'd have come up against Hendo's Fire Warning.