General Chat

[Pisto]

Also maybe an unpopular opinion but unfortunately horses are going to die during a race or because of a race as in Celebre D’allen. I accept it’s part of the sport and for the most part these race horses are very well cared for. They are bred to race or they wouldn’t be bred at all. Except for the minority that are pets/ work etc. If it wasn’t for the purpose of racing, horses wouldn’t exist anywhere near the numbers there is currently. All imo of course .

[Pisto]

I forgot to put earlier

Appreciate the friendly tone as always

I don’t know if this is just me but I tend to put a ‘voice’ to people’s words and sometimes it can come across as being short/ unfriendly etc from people but more than likely unintended. It’s a pain writing on your phone sometimes

[FinalFurlong91]

He did pull the horse up
led 3 out
got a good spin
the horse was just a little old
Nothing to do with the jockey
Did u watch the race?

I forgot to put earlier

Appreciate the friendly tone as always

[somer1]

Good old skybet, they never let ya down !

Well nothing came of the horse i asked to be priced up. Not even a we got your request and will come back to you! Was on to live chat again today (day off work) and got hold a Calum who said he will ask the traders and email me back today. Do i hold my breath?

[archie]

It was about 15 seconds where he went from being in contention (and therefore the jockey was bound by the rules to ride for the best possible placing) to being in distress and pulled up.

I think that he should probably have been pulled up before the last but I can't be too critical of a young man who was in the heat of the battle.

[Craigy14]

He did pull the horse up
led 3 out
got a good spin
the horse was just a little old
Nothing to do with the jockey
Did u watch the race?

I’d agree he was leading the national 3 out, the horse must have been giving him plenty to be there at that point!

Could possibly maybe say after he was headed he maybe could have done something a little quicker but the adrenaline etc would have still been flying round the body at that point.

[Ice]

Just chased Slybet to find out where the 2026 win any race betting is after they told me it would be up after Aintree.
Well what can in let you guys know? I would of had more joy hammering a 6" nail into my penis with a toffee hammer
What she said was what promotion are you talking about? We are using new software so some promotions get lost in the system for a few weeks
After saying that you always have them up after Cheltenham it looked like she gave me the axe (aka fuck off) and disappeared. Well at least i got passed the bot
All i can say guys if you want the prices up kick off at them and tell them your shutting your account as they dont offer what you want.
UPDATE.
Just sent a message on twatter asking for a price for a horse to win any race. Lets see what i dont get back pmsfl.

Good old skybet, they never let ya down !

[somer1]

Just chased Slybet to find out where the 2026 win any race betting is after they told me it would be up after Aintree.
Well what can in let you guys know? I would of had more joy hammering a 6" nail into my penis with a toffee hammer
What she said was what promotion are you talking about? We are using new software so some promotions get lost in the system for a few weeks
After saying that you always have them up after Cheltenham it looked like she gave me the axe (aka fuck off) and disappeared. Well at least i got passed the bot
All i can say guys if you want the prices up kick off at them and tell them your shutting your account as they dont offer what you want.
UPDATE.
Just sent a message on twatter asking for a price for a horse to win any race. Lets see what i dont get back pmsfl.

[AaronLad]

I'd suggest Micheal Nolan probably needs to delete all of his social media

He should've pulled the horse up no doubt. I'd argue all of the jockeys beaten 70+ lengths should've pulled up.

You can't place, you can't win prize money, your horse clearly hasn't run its race and is likely exhausted so why bother carrying on.

The authorities will now be under pressure to give him a much longer ban. Many who dont like the sport will be calling for a lifetime ban because in their eyes he killed the horse. Hopefully they dont cave like they always do when the anti racing crowd get on them.

He did pull the horse up
led 3 out
got a good spin
the horse was just a little old
Nothing to do with the jockey
Did u watch the race?

[FinalFurlong91]

I'd suggest Micheal Nolan probably needs to delete all of his social media

He should've pulled the horse up no doubt. I'd argue all of the jockeys beaten 70+ lengths should've pulled up.

You can't place, you can't win prize money, your horse clearly hasn't run its race and is likely exhausted so why bother carrying on.

The authorities will now be under pressure to give him a much longer ban. Many who dont like the sport will be calling for a lifetime ban because in their eyes he killed the horse. Hopefully they dont cave like they always do when the anti racing crowd get on them.

[AaronLad]

Anyone pick up on nicky henderson last week randomly saying Jessie Harringtons going to win the english 2000 guineas during an interview. Struck me as odd to come out with it, but may have missed the full context. Either way, article in Racing Post today suggesting Green Impact 33/1 will be heading to the english guineas and Hotazhell 16/1 french gns.

Just incase you wanted full context Henderson was saying it in a reply when asked about constitution hills participation at Punchestown, he said he'd be over their looking after Jessie Harringtons house while she was over here winning the guineas, so he didn't see why not.

Punchestown Champion hurdle 2nd May
Newmarket 2000 guineas 3rd May

[Jrow]

I like a horse in the same ownership as Green Impact for the derby, Stanhope Gardens for ralph becket. Again, has the formline with Delacroix.

[Eggs]

Excellent write up.
best price 25s with paddy now, but 16s and 20s with the majority of firms

….i took that 33s (boosted 36-1) with Hills earlier but they’ve cut to 20s now and only 16s in other places. As you say, still 25s with PP who have stablemate Hotazhell shorter even though France looks his target.

Just done the Saxon e/w double & I also had a little interest in 40-1 (boosted 44-1 Lads) for Derby based on Harrington’s comments.

[Jrow]

Green Impact has proved a tough one to pass, in his 3 races.

The Maiden where he debuted in 2nd he made the winner battle it out right to the end, and the subsequent form in behind, for me, made it the deepest Maiden of the season.

Those that chat to me through the summer/autumn on Flat racing, away from F.J. website, know I tracked that specific Maiden race form all last autumn.

2nd Green Impact - Won Mdn and Group 2 (112 OR)
3rd Currawood - Won Mdn now (95 OR)
4th Bernard Shaw - Won Mdn, 3rd Grp 2 (109 OR)
5th Black Forza - Won Mdn and Group 2 (103 OR)
6th Apples and Bananas- Won next 3 (103 OR)
7th Ja'Marr - Won 2 times as 2yo (80 OR)
8th Rock of Cashel - Won next start (103 OR)
9th Trinity College- Won twice, 2nd in Gp3 (105 OR)

I picked up on this race form pretty quickly, after a couple had Won, and rode a few waves on it, but by no means all of them

Green Impact was beaten a Neck by Hazdann (D.Weld) on that debut, and I waited all season for Hazdann to reappear and he didn't.

He came back last weekend and close 4th to Henri Matisse (OR 116) btn 1.5L in a race with battle-hardened horses from last season only just ahead of him.

Dermot Weld was quick to say Irish 2000Gns for Hazdann was the target (end of May).

Green Impact's 2 runs after that amazing Maiden race were 2 wins

a Maiden and a 4-runner Group 2.

Both times getting first run on Aidans Delacroix and holding on well enough to win snuggly (more so in the Maiden).

That Maiden win was when Delacroix was making his debut. He's now a 116 OR and one of Aidans main Derby hopes currently having Won the Ballysax last weekend

Personally I though Delacroix would beat Green Impact when they met again after Delacroix had won him Mdn between times.

They both showed up in a 1M Group 2 with form figures of 21.

Delacroix went off 5/6F, Green Impact 5/2 in a 4 runner field

Green Impact took the lead in the straight and held on well when Delacroix came at him.

Subsequently Delacroix has won 2 Group 3's either side of a 2nd beaten only a Nose in the Group 1 Futurity Stakes at Doncaster.

That race is usually Won by Aidan, and usually ends up the best 1M Group 1 2yo race of the season.

So when you look at Green Impact you have a hardened body of work.

If Jessie decides to go to Newmarket I doubt he'd go off anywhere near 33/1.
He would go much shorter.

Her other big 2yo was Hotazhell, and he was the one who beat Delacroix a nose in the Group 1. The French classics seem to be on his agenda.

At that price you could dabble with an E/W double or two

Aidan doesn't seem to know what he's doing at Newmarkets Guineas races the last few years particularly the Colts, with even 2yo brilliance and future stars being readily turned over at HQ.

So I'd be happy to take on Twain if thats seriously the best horse he is going to run in it.

Maybe
Green Impact 33s
Doubled with a Festival horse (or 2) Each Way

for small stakes
that you want to try and get the Cheltenham one on board for the Place payout.

Kalif Du Berlais 16s Champion Chase for example.

That must be around 30/1 for the Place Double

The Win Part would be mind boggling so I'd park that thought until/unless the first part happened and focus on the Place Double potential.

Its the sort of thing I throw around in my head when thinking of putting a "now" horse with a next March horse

If we knew Green Impact was defo coming to Newmarket

Excellent write up.
best price 25s with paddy now, but 16s and 20s with the majority of firms

[Saxon Warrior]

Green Impact has proved a tough one to pass, in his 3 races.

The Maiden where he debuted in 2nd he made the winner battle it out right to the end, and the subsequent form in behind, for me, made it the deepest Maiden of the season.

Those that chat to me through the summer/autumn on Flat racing, away from F.J. website, know I tracked that specific Maiden race form all last autumn.

2nd Green Impact - Won Mdn and Group 2 (112 OR)
3rd Currawood - Won Mdn now (95 OR)
4th Bernard Shaw - Won Mdn, 3rd Grp 2 (109 OR)
5th Black Forza - Won Mdn and Group 2 (103 OR)
6th Apples and Bananas- Won next 3 (103 OR)
7th Ja'Marr - Won 2 times as 2yo (80 OR)
8th Rock of Cashel - Won next start (103 OR)
9th Trinity College- Won twice, 2nd in Gp3 (105 OR)

I picked up on this race form pretty quickly, after a couple had Won, and rode a few waves on it, but by no means all of them

Green Impact was beaten a Neck by Hazdann (D.Weld) on that debut, and I waited all season for Hazdann to reappear and he didn't.

He came back last weekend and close 4th to Henri Matisse (OR 116) btn 1.5L in a race with battle-hardened horses from last season only just ahead of him.

Dermot Weld was quick to say Irish 2000Gns for Hazdann was the target (end of May).

Green Impact's 2 runs after that amazing Maiden race were 2 wins

a Maiden and a 4-runner Group 2.

Both times getting first run on Aidans Delacroix and holding on well enough to win snuggly (more so in the Maiden).

That Maiden win was when Delacroix was making his debut. He's now a 116 OR and one of Aidans main Derby hopes currently having Won the Ballysax last weekend

Personally I though Delacroix would beat Green Impact when they met again after Delacroix had won him Mdn between times.

They both showed up in a 1M Group 2 with form figures of 21.

Delacroix went off 5/6F, Green Impact 5/2 in a 4 runner field

Green Impact took the lead in the straight and held on well when Delacroix came at him.

Subsequently Delacroix has won 2 Group 3's either side of a 2nd beaten only a Nose in the Group 1 Futurity Stakes at Doncaster.

That race is usually Won by Aidan, and usually ends up the best 1M Group 1 2yo race of the season.

So when you look at Green Impact you have a hardened body of work.

If Jessie decides to go to Newmarket I doubt he'd go off anywhere near 33/1.
He would go much shorter.

Her other big 2yo was Hotazhell, and he was the one who beat Delacroix a nose in the Group 1. The French classics seem to be on his agenda.

At that price you could dabble with an E/W double or two

Aidan doesn't seem to know what he's doing at Newmarkets Guineas races the last few years particularly the Colts, with even 2yo brilliance and future stars being readily turned over at HQ.

So I'd be happy to take on Twain if thats seriously the best horse he is going to run in it.

Maybe
Green Impact 33s
Doubled with a Festival horse (or 2) Each Way

for small stakes
that you want to try and get the Cheltenham one on board for the Place payout.

Kalif Du Berlais 16s Champion Chase for example.

That must be around 30/1 for the Place Double

The Win Part would be mind boggling so I'd park that thought until/unless the first part happened and focus on the Place Double potential.

Its the sort of thing I throw around in my head when thinking of putting a "now" horse with a next March horse

If we knew Green Impact was defo coming to Newmarket