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  • Originally posted by charlie View Post

    Thats far from true. Plenty of scenarios/hard luck stories by where he loses by a fine margin and still comes here.
    Of course but if he loses fair and square and disappoints them again I think the Ryanair will be favourite.

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    • Notebook on the snaff ​​​​​​

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      • Originally posted by Altior View Post
        Notebook on the snaff ​​​​​​
        Wouldn't be surprised at all. Loves the course.

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Of course but if he loses fair and square and disappoints them again I think the Ryanair will be favourite.
          Not entirely sure what ‘disappoints them again’ refers to but struggle to see a likely scenario where the current relatively short priced fav for the CC would be rerouted to the Ryanair when connections already have the reigning champion lined up for a repeat bid in that race.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Of course but if he loses fair and square and disappoints them again I think the Ryanair will be favourite.
            What to join -
            min
            allaho
            melon
            torando flyer

            and rely on cash back in the qmcc??

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            • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

              What to join -
              min
              allaho
              melon
              torando flyer

              and rely on cash back in the qmcc??
              True. He'd probably miss Cheltenham all together then ? Let's see what happens first .

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                True. He'd probably miss Cheltenham all together then ? Let's see what happens first .
                He’d have to get legitimately beat by a distance. They love the horse and will want to give him every chance of winning the CC especially after what happened with his late withdrawal last season.

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                • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post

                  He’d have to get legitimately beat by a distance. They love the horse and will want to give him every chance of winning the CC especially after what happened with his late withdrawal last season.
                  Apart from beating trees a couple of weeks ago his record on deep ground isn’t great, the way he’s talked about you’d think he was a multiple champion but it could be that ground comes into their thinking in a much stronger renewal.
                  Obviously I’m guessing though...

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                  • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                    Apart from beating trees a couple of weeks ago his record on deep ground isn’t great, the way he’s talked about you’d think he was a multiple champion but it could be that ground comes into their thinking in a much stronger renewal.
                    Obviously I’m guessing though...
                    Understood, and he’s still got plenty to prove to justify his lofty reputation. I was just looking to question Lobos’ assertion that he has disappointed them (connections I assume) before and that he would likely be heading for the Ryanair if beaten over Christmas.

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                    • They think the absolute world of Chacun in Closutton , I don't people realise how highly they regard him.
                      He'll be going nowhere other than the Champion Chase come March

                      Looking forward to him dispatching of this field with ease come the weekend

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                      • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post

                        Understood, and he’s still got plenty to prove to justify his lofty reputation. I was just looking to question Lobos’ assertion that he has disappointed them (connections I assume) before and that he would likely be heading for the Ryanair if beaten over Christmas.
                        They've come out publicly and said they were disappointed with him last time didn't they? They expected more from him. If he gets beat at Leopardstown then they'll have to have a rethink surely?

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                        • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post

                          Understood, and he’s still got plenty to prove to justify his lofty reputation. I was just looking to question Lobos’ assertion that he has disappointed them (connections I assume) before and that he would likely be heading for the Ryanair if beaten over Christmas.
                          Yep agree, I’m sure it’ll be Champion Chase or the field...

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                          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                            Absolutely. I'll be shouting on PTKO to lower the colours of CPS and book her one way ticket to the QMCC. I mean, if CPS dispatches of PTKO with ease then I'd assume they go mares chase route. So many moving pieces
                            The smart play there, in my opinion, is to back CPS on the day in a double with PTKO for the Mares Chase.

                            Something I'll consider.

                            Having Notebook in there doesn't make it straight forward.



                            Just thinking out loud too, not committing to this as a good idea yet

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                              The smart play there, in my opinion, is to back CPS on the day in a double with PTKO for the Mares Chase.

                              Something I'll consider.

                              Having Notebook in there doesn't make it straight forward.

                              Just thinking out loud too, not committing to this as a good idea yet
                              I very much confer Kev, that is definitely the play for me as I have neither in the book.

                              Double pays 30/1

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                The smart play there, in my opinion, is to back CPS on the day in a double with PTKO for the Mares Chase.

                                Something I'll consider.

                                Having Notebook in there doesn't make it straight forward.



                                Just thinking out loud too, not committing to this as a good idea yet
                                might do this with notebook.

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