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The Pertemps Network Final Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    https://www.irishracing.com/card?rac...d=202002191515

    last Irish qualifier.
    All the usual suspects,
    Dalton Highway
    It's all guesswork
    Cartwright
    Discorama

    and couple of interesting ones

    Relegate
    Doctor Duffy
    Royal Thief
    Cartwright the most interesting there IMO

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    • Originally posted by charlie View Post
      Cartwright the most interesting there IMO
      50's nrnb

      I'd say Relegate is well handicapped off 130.
      Only available on skybet though 14's.
      WH any race 20's

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      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
        I think you're safe enough Kev. Not only does he need to qualify, he needs to go up enough in the weights to get a run. Very much odds against to line up, let alone win.
        Gee thanks FM , I’ll bin my 44/1 now then .

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        • Been on Ronald Pump a long time for this race but know he has entries in RSA, the stagers hurdle and the NHC. . Does anyone have any idea/knowledge if this is an intended target. I really like the horse

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          • Originally posted by Penzance View Post
            Been on Ronald Pump a long time for this race but know he has entries in RSA, the stagers hurdle and the NHC. . Does anyone have any idea/knowledge if this is an intended target. I really like the horse
            I dont think the owners have released an update since the days before his last chase run, behind Carefully Selected. From memory theyd said that the chase run would tell them whether to run over fences or hurdles at Cheltenham and that he would need to win that chase or go very close for them to run over fences at the Festival.

            He ran poorly, but stayed on from the last, I took that to mean he would go over hurdles in either the Pertemps or the Stayers. Therefore I was expecting him to retain his entry in the stayers yesterday, which he did, and I suspect he may be taken out of the novice chases next week (IMO of course). I think he will get the Pertemps entry next Thursday and then wait until the weights come out on 26th and then choose Stayers or Pertemps.

            He is 150 in Ireland over hurdles but the UK handicapper could raise him a fair bit given the 1st, 4th and 5th in Ronald’s Pertemps Qualifier (where he was runner-up) just finished 1st 4th and 5th (again, in the same order!) in the big 3M Handicap Hurdle at the DRF, where Traceysenniscorthy went up around 10lbs for winning.

            My thoughts are UK handicapper gives Ronald Pump around 155, and he goes to the Stayers, as a very lively outside price, so I have backed him for the Stayers. (I do have him Any Race, from way back, as back up though).
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
              I dont think the owners have released an update since the days before his last chase run, behind Carefully Selected. From memory theyd said that the chase run would tell them whether to run over fences or hurdles at Cheltenham and that he would need to win that chase or go very close for them to run over fences at the Festival.

              He ran poorly, but stayed on from the last, I took that to mean he would go over hurdles in either the Pertemps or the Stayers. Therefore I was expecting him to retain his entry in the stayers yesterday, which he did, and I suspect he may be taken out of the novice chases next week (IMO of course). I think he will get the Pertemps entry next Thursday and then wait until the weights come out on 26th and then choose Stayers or Pertemps.

              He is 150 in Ireland over hurdles but the UK handicapper could raise him a fair bit given the 1st, 4th and 5th in Ronald’s Pertemps Qualifier (where he was runner-up) just finished 1st 4th and 5th (again, in the same order!) in the big 3M Handicap Hurdle at the DRF, where Traceysenniscorthy went up around 10lbs for winning.

              My thoughts are UK handicapper gives Ronald Pump around 155, and he goes to the Stayers, as a very lively outside price, so I have backed him for the Stayers. (I do have him Any Race, from way back, as back up though).
              Thanks Saxon! Brilliant stuff. I’ll add him to my stayers book then NRNB. I like him.

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              • Originally posted by Humble Pie View Post
                Gee thanks FM , I’ll bin my 44/1 now then .
                Don't be doing that HP there's still a chance, it's just not the race I thought we'd need him to qualify from. Hope Storm Dennis doesn't ruin things for the weekend.

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                • Pertemps Hurdle on Palmers Hill @ 50/1.


                  Posted yesterday in a hurry on my diary page.

                  I had the horse in mind from the Qualifier entries over a week ago at Exeter (abandoned last Sunday) but the few bookmakers quoting for the final were no better than 20/1.

                  With the qualifier cancelled I noted an entry this Saturday in the Haydock qualifier, and then again in the rearranged Exeter meeting on Sunday.


                  With the horse having no other entries Jonjo O’Neill does seem specifically keen to get Palmers Hill qualified for the Pertemps Final, and I am very keen to get the horse onside from the moment I clocked Betfair Sportsbook had priced the horse @ 50/1, which looks over-generous to me.

                  The horse is from the stable of JP McManus - Jonjo O‘Neill - Jonjo O’Neill Junior.
                  His last run was over a year ago, just like two recent market movers in the race, Phoenix Way and Portrush Ted, and both of those won well after a similar break, first time out.

                  More importantly for me, Palmers Hill’s last run in November 2018 was at Cheltenham over 2M5F in a 23 runner handicap hurdle.
                  It was the Conditional jockeys race on the Sunday of the November/Open meeting, run before the Greatwood Hurdle.
                  Jonjo Junior plotted the usual path for a soft/heavy ground race, wide, out of danger of fallers on better ground but giving up lengths to those on the inside.
                  The horse jumped and travelled well, moved up to contest and take the lead rounding the return and ran away from the usual competitive field, the second beaten 1&1/4 lengths, but the third more than 5 lengths back from Palmers Hill.

                  50/1 could look massive if Palmers Hill runs in the first six in one of the two Qualifiers he is entered in over the weekend.
                  Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 13 February 2020, 06:58 PM.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • You’ve convinced me!

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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                      Don't be doing that HP there's still a chance, it's just not the race I thought we'd need him to qualify from. Hope Storm Dennis doesn't ruin things for the weekend.
                      Typed tongue in check but weather

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                      • Originally posted by Humble Pie View Post
                        Typed tongue in check but weather
                        Yeh I know, let's hope the weather doesn't ruin the last glimmer of hope!

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                        • I’m in SW!!!

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                          • Kilbricken storm ironically is not getting much luck qualifying is he.. two sundays in a row

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                            • Originally posted by punterorplonker View Post
                              Kilbricken storm ironically is not getting much luck qualifying is he.. two sundays in a row
                              He's declared tomorrow but looks like it'll be cancelled

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                              • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post
                                He's declared tomorrow but looks like it'll be cancelled
                                No inspection at Haydock Saturday so KS may get his run there, or on Sunday at Exeter.
                                "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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