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  • Originally posted by billymag View Post
    Think the Supreme form is clutching at straws if weve got to January and we are looking at the second winning a hcp off 151 by a length to give it some substance.
    It doesn't look a classic renewal, but he won it with ease.

    Fakir hasn't done too bad for all he has had the allowances.

    Felix Desjy hasn't been seen. Aramon only once.

    Unfortunately all this doesn't matter as Klassical Dream has lost his marbles

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    • Originally posted by FaugheenTheMachine View Post
      The only way Klassical Dream would be of any real interest to me now would be if the there was no good at all in the going description on the day
      Agree. Would need it to be very soft imo to run/be competitive anywhere over 2 miles. His entry in the Stayers is an interesting one. If he were mine I'd step him up in trip.

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      • This season Cornerstone Lad, won a G1 beating Buveur D'air.

        Then comes out best at the weights in the race at the weekend, which puts him ahead of Pentland Hills who is still 8/1



        Through Ballyandy it leaves only a little to find with Epatante (3L)?, but if Epatante doesn't act around Cheltenham, is it inconceivable that Cornerstone Lad wins the worst Champion Hurdle in my lifetime?

        I'm going to back him at 50/1

        This is hilarous.
        Last edited by Kevloaf; 19 January 2020, 12:16 PM.

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        • Ha! I like that 50/1 cornerstone lad, that settles this puzzle for me!

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            is it inconceivable that Cornerstone Lad wins the worst Champion Hurdle in my lifetime?
            I had CL yesterday top 2 and in the without PH market, if you'd told me over the last I wouldn't be collecting I'd have you certified.

            As for the Champion, it is shaping up to be a weak affair not not that weak, there's no way he'll get a soft lead and be allowed to dictate in the way he is used to, something will take him on and he could get lit up.
            I'd never criticise a 50/1 stab but he's not someone I'm rushing to back...

            Ps were you not around for Hor La Lois ?

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            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
              I had CL yesterday top 2 and in the without PH market, if you'd told me over the last I wouldn't be collecting I'd have you certified.

              As for the Champion, it is shaping up to be a weak affair not not that weak, there's no way he'll get a soft lead and be allowed to dictate in the way he is used to, something will take him on and he could get lit up.
              I'd never criticise a 50/1 stab but he's not someone I'm rushing to back...

              Ps were you not around for Hor La Lois ?

              I can see why people wouldn't be rushing to back... but I've been against Pentland Hills, Fusil Raffles and Couer Sublime quite bullishly and they're all shorter in the betting despite achieving less, so I think it's value relative to those horses.


              Nope, Binocular 2010 the first fesitval I watched...by lifetime, I meant since I've been into it

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                You only have to look at horses like See you Then, Quevega and Benie to throw that theory out the window.

                He staked a claim for honours when winning the Morgiana Hurdle at Punchestown in November, after being off the track following fall at Naas a year earlier.

                Mullins added: "He's out riding away and we're hoping to go straight to Cheltenham with him.

                "It's not ideal, but that's just the way it has to be. At the moment it's straight to the Champion Hurdle."

                hmmmmmm what do you mean Patrick thats not ideal, what about See you then who won off breaks in the late 1980's, surely the horse wins fresh so its no problem going straight to the race without a recent run, if you think thats a hindrance I think we need to throw that theory out the window lol

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                • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                  He staked a claim for honours when winning the Morgiana Hurdle at Punchestown in November, after being off the track following fall at Naas a year earlier.

                  Mullins added: "He's out riding away and we're hoping to go straight to Cheltenham with him.

                  "It's not ideal, but that's just the way it has to be. At the moment it's straight to the Champion Hurdle."

                  hmmmmmm what do you mean Patrick thats not ideal, what about See you then who won off breaks in the late 1980's, surely the horse wins fresh so its no problem going straight to the race without a recent run, if you think thats a hindrance I think we need to throw that theory out the window lol
                  Blimey.....you having a bad day ??

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                  • Originally posted by billymag View Post
                    He staked a claim for honours when winning the Morgiana Hurdle at Punchestown in November, after being off the track following fall at Naas a year earlier.

                    Mullins added: "He's out riding away and we're hoping to go straight to Cheltenham with him.

                    "It's not ideal, but that's just the way it has to be. At the moment it's straight to the Champion Hurdle."

                    hmmmmmm what do you mean Patrick thats not ideal, what about See you then who won off breaks in the late 1980's, surely the horse wins fresh so its no problem going straight to the race without a recent run, if you think thats a hindrance I think we need to throw that theory out the window lol
                    Spot on, the horses form tells you he wins off a break.
                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                    • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                      Spot on, the horses form tells you he wins off a break.
                      A leg break ?
                      Don't tell Billy.

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                      • Think ive got that out my system now lads, good luck if youve backed him

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                        • It baffles me why people are so against Pentland Hills - hes surely a very promising 5 year old who has done very little wrong. Did really well as a 4 year old winning the triumph impressively and following it up in aintree. This season after joining the senior ranks, hes run 2 good races although running a little keenly. The first one at cheltenham he looked like the winner coming to the last but blew up. In the 2nd one he tanked along and only got caught at the line on softer ground than ideal.

                          If he's not good enough to win the 2020 champion hurdle so be it but surely a horse of real promise for future champion hurdles the way he travels and jumps.

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                          • My biggest issue with him is his price he's second favourite! There's not a single piece of form that justifies him being so high in the market.

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                            • Originally posted by harchibald View Post
                              It baffles me why people are so against Pentland Hills - hes surely a very promising 5 year old who has done very little wrong. Did really well as a 4 year old winning the triumph impressively and following it up in aintree. This season after joining the senior ranks, hes run 2 good races although running a little keenly. The first one at cheltenham he looked like the winner coming to the last but blew up. In the 2nd one he tanked along and only got caught at the line on softer ground than ideal.

                              If he's not good enough to win the 2020 champion hurdle so be it but surely a horse of real promise for future champion hurdles the way he travels and jumps.
                              Easy, price. He’s 7/1 having just lost to Ballyandy. Probably not good enough but priced up as though he is.

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                              • Originally posted by harchibald View Post
                                It baffles me why people are so against Pentland Hills - hes surely a very promising 5 year old who has done very little wrong. Did really well as a 4 year old winning the triumph impressively and following it up in aintree. This season after joining the senior ranks, hes run 2 good races although running a little keenly. The first one at cheltenham he looked like the winner coming to the last but blew up. In the 2nd one he tanked along and only got caught at the line on softer ground than ideal.

                                If he's not good enough to win the 2020 champion hurdle so be it but surely a horse of real promise for future champion hurdles the way he travels and jumps.
                                Which part of form in open company makes you like him at just 7/1?

                                The 4th in the Grade 2 at Cheltenham behind Call me Lord or the defeat behind Ballyandy at the weekend?

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