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Ultima Business Solutions Handicap Chase 2018

I reckon the ultima would be the hardest of the three for Yanworth to win, give him a good chance in the other two
 
Robbante said:
I reckon the ultima would be the hardest of the three for Yanworth to win, give him a good chance in the other two
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Would probably be the easiest imo. Due to the gallop they go in the average Ultima compared to the rsa. However you only have your novice status once and fully expect it will be the rsa. I'd be shocked if stayers. Would be completely useless in employing yogi breisner whos been jumping poles with him.
 
Scooby91 said:
Would probably be the easiest imo. Due to the gallop they go in the average Ultima compared to the rsa. However you only have your novice status once and fully expect it will be the rsa. I'd be shocked if stayers. Would be completely useless in employing yogi breisner whos been jumping poles with him.
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Depends what Breisner makes of him I suppose. Sure he wouldn’t be averse to telling them he doesn’t think he’s going to ever be a natural over fences.

I can’t agree the Ultima would be easier than the RSA for a Novice myself. Especially a novice who doesn’t jump particularly well.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Yanworth going to get an entry for this. Interesting off a mark of 149
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King has history in this race. Bensalem probably should have won in his novice year before finally doing it a year later.
 
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mayo said:
King has history in this race. Bensalem probably should have won in his novice year before finally doing it a year later.
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Novices have a decent record in the race too. I don't think it would be the worst decision in the world if Yanworth ran here.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Novices have a decent record in the race too. I don't think it would be the worst decision in the world if Yanworth ran here.
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I have put him in a few NRNB yankees for stayers - they have National Spirit next Sunday if they wanted a prep. The Aintree Hurdle form with Supasundae looks good now. I don’t think he looks a natural over fences.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Novices have a decent record in the race too. I don't think it would be the worst decision in the world if Yanworth ran here.
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Yanworth has beaten the favourite for the stayers hurdle over the trip on the favourites favoured ground. Yanworth has beaten the favourite for the JLT over the trip this season. Be a massive letdown if they shove him into a handicap imo, albeit i’ll be all over him if they do
 
Robbante said:
Yanworth has beaten the favourite for the stayers hurdle over the trip on the favourites favoured ground. Yanworth has beaten the favourite for the JLT over the trip this season. Be a massive letdown if they shove him into a handicap imo, albeit i’ll be all over him if they do
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That is an interesting point.

I thought 8/1 is too skinny but seems to be quite a lot of interest here?
 
been told Yanworth is going to the stayers hurdle guys ...........
 
mac said:
been told Yanworth is going to the stayers hurdle guys ...........
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That would be how I would read it. Why pull him out of Saturdays race if Stayers wasn't the plan.
 
mac said:
been told Yanworth is going to the stayers hurdle guys ...........
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I'll give you even money that he does :) if that is of interest to you.
 
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Yanworth seems to continuously being slashed for this race. 14/1 yesterday with Hills now 10's, Betfair 10's into 8/1, BetVictor 12's into 8's them 3 are not NRNB, then the NRNB lot, Bet365 8/1, into 7's now 5's, Skybet 8's into 6's and PP 5's into 4's.

Seems this could well end up being the likely target then. Would go with a huge chance surely!
 
Yanworth has only won twice in 5 runs at Cheltenham, both times on heavy.

Not for me

EDIT: Oh, and at 2m4 too
 
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robith said:
Yanworth has only won twice in 5 runs at Cheltenham, both times on heavy.

Not for me

EDIT: Oh, and at 2m4 too
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Look at the quality of races. That's where I don't like stats. And he should have gone very close in the champion bumper but for AP
 
Scooby91 said:
Look at the quality of races. That's where I don't like stats. And he should have gone very close in the champion bumper but for AP
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You have to respect the connections, must be some of their money for this kind of move
 
Scooby91 said:
Look at the quality of races. That's where I don't like stats. And he should have gone very close in the champion bumper but for AP
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A fair challenge Scooby. I will openly admit my view is jaundiced by the fact that he twice carried my money at the festival and ran limp hasn't endeared him to me. I haven't liked him over fences either. Strangely though a stayer's hurdle tilt would appeal to me a great deal
 
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