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Ultima Business Solutions Handicap Chase 2018

No Snow Falcon so a good thing in the Plate :p
 
Happy to leave him unbacked in the RSA.
 
Scooby91 said:
So am I . But if you look back before the flogas he wants further imo. He just ran into a few very good ones there.
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Yeah not against him staying, just don't think he's up to that class
 
I am going to have an e/w bet on Shantou Flyer, goes in heavy and run at cheltenham a number of times, has a pull in the weights with the fav Coo Star Sivola, I know that was over 2.4miles but SF was staying on and James Bowen will be taking 3lbs off (can he claim in this?)

20/1 seems a fair price & he is by far not the worse horse in the race.
 
Sirbetalot said:
I am going to have an e/w bet on Shantou Flyer, goes in heavy and run at cheltenham a number of times, has a pull in the weights with the fav Coo Star Sivola, I know that was over 2.4miles but SF was staying on and James Bowen will be taking 3lbs off (can he claim in this?)

20/1 seems a fair price & he is by far not the worse horse in the race.
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Does he really want 3m? Best RPR at 3m 144 on good ground seems to me he wants 2m5f.
 
This race doesn't look that strong. I was very much against both Snow Falcon and Dingo Dollar even before they were withdrawn. The top three all have question marks. I have backed Gold Present but I think this trip on better ground might just about be his limit. They will also be nursing him with regards to the National. I have already said there wasn't much substance in Coo Star Sivola's last run and does anyone really know what you are going to get from Singlefarmpayment these days?

I had backed Vintage Clouds for the Kim Muir and have added him here as well. Cook got involved in a ridiculous pace battle last time and consequently he ran much better than the placing suggests. The ground should suit.
 
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For those interested differential between highest previous mark.

-7 - Wakanda
-6 - Minella Daddy
-6 - Sizing Codelco
-5 - Knight Of Noir
-4 - Shantou Flyer
-3 - Casse Tete
-3 - Ramses De Teillee
-2 - Single Farm Payment
-2 - Vicente
-1 - Cogry
-1 - O O Seven
-1 - Vintage Clouds
0 - Vic De Touzaine
+1 - Beware The Bear
+1 - Yala Enki
+2 - Coo Star Sivola
+2 - Eamon An Cnoic
+8 - Gold Present
 
Folski said:
For those interested differential between highest previous mark.

-7 - Wakanda
-6 - Minella Daddy
-6 - Sizing Codelco
-5 - Knight Of Noir
-4 - Shantou Flyer
-3 - Casse Tete
-3 - Ramses De Teillee
-2 - Single Farm Payment
-2 - Vicente
-1 - Cogry
-1 - O O Seven
-1 - Vintage Clouds
0 - Vic De Touzaine
+1 - Beware The Bear
+1 - Yala Enki
+2 - Coo Star Sivola
+2 - Eamon An Cnoic
+8 - Gold Present
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Thanks Folski. Without me checking, are they highest mark hurdles or chases or just chase marks?
 
Surely YakaEnki is massively overpriced for this. All wins on Soft/Heavy and he absolutely demolished Blacklion last time out. I know he finished behind Gold present at Ascot in December but that was on GS and YK will rellish this if it's a bog
 
luisgarciaisgod said:
Surely YakaEnki is massively overpriced for this. All wins on Soft/Heavy and he absolutely demolished Blacklion last time out. I know he finished behind Gold present at Ascot in December but that was on GS and YK will rellish this if it's a bog
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I looked at Yala Enki for that exact reason... but then just decided he isn't good enough regardless :highly_amused:
 
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