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Triumph Hurdle 2019

I see PIC has been gelded on the 14th jan how long does it take for a horse to recover?? Maybe that’s the reason behind lack of training yet hopefully get some work in these next few weeks
 
Arkle said:
I see PIC has been gelded on the 14th jan how long does it take for a horse to recover?? Maybe that’s the reason behind lack of training yet hopefully get some work in these next few weeks
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I’ve backed PIC and don’t have a cash out option
In Scooby we trust and if we can’t get it from the horse’s mouth then jockeys is good enough for me.
What will be , no run then move on
 
boopa said:
Just lay Sir Erec.
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This race really interests me. The respective yards obviously like the front 2 and you'd assume they're going to improve for there 1st run but the form of that maiden hurdle is piss poor. Sir erec beats gardens of Babylon on the flat but it's admirable what gardens of Babylon finds off the bridle so it's no foregone conclusion that sir erec is the better of the 2 imo. Chief justice is just not very good so for this to work out a decent race, he shouldn't be in the same parish here.
 
Yep, the worry is whether a few of them will be non triers. Support for GOB is encouraging.
 
For today’s race I wasn’t confident of Sir Erec and really fancy Tiger Tap Tap so have a decent single on TTT and did a small Yankee ( Min , AJ, E Allen and Sir Percy )
Now the Yankee returns 4 times the single and I had a single on Gardens OB which returns more than my stake money.��
 
What I’m v poorly communicating is my saver is worth more than my selection
 
Scooby91 said:
This race really interests me. The respective yards obviously like the front 2 and you'd assume they're going to improve for there 1st run but the form of that maiden hurdle is piss poor. Sir erec beats gardens of Babylon on the flat but it's admirable what gardens of Babylon finds off the bridle so it's no foregone conclusion that sir erec is the better of the 2 imo. Chief justice is just not very good so for this to work out a decent race, he shouldn't be in the same parish here.
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I backed all four the other week when I decided the Irish may be better on the whole.
Surin 25-1
Babylon 25-1
Tiger 14-1
Sir erec 10-1

then fakir popped up and did what he did, so I;m really interested today and hopw they show up well.
the couer sublime chief justice form I hope is a few lengths behind these and so end up in the fred winter.

I've since cashed babylon and backed it for today and cheltenham in the special thing you or someone else flagged up.

If it don't go to plan today, and I'm sure it won't go perfect then I'll be doing some trimming,
but a 1,2,3,4 of those horses will do just fine.

Couer sublime is possibly the interesting horse and different tactics may come into play, or like boopa hinted at, they may also be burying him for a mark.
 
quevega said:
I backed all four the other week when I decided the Irish may be better on the whole.
Surin 25-1
Babylon 25-1
Tiger 14-1
Sir erec 10-1

then fakir popped up and did what he did, so I;m really interested today and hopw they show up well.
the couer sublime chief justice form I hope is a few lengths behind these and so end up in the fred winter.

I've since cashed babylon and backed it for today and cheltenham in the special thing you or someone else flagged up.

If it don't go to plan today, and I'm sure it won't go perfect then I'll be doing some trimming,
but a 1,2,3,4 of those horses will do just fine.

Couer sublime is possibly the interesting horse and different tactics may come into play, or like boopa hinted at, they may also be burying him for a mark.
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Authorizo of elliots also popped up in a maiden hurdle. You've got to be a fair horse for a juvenile to win an open maiden hurdle.
Coeur sublime would have gone very very close last time but once again chief justice was still around. He's a mile behind adjali/ cracker factory/ quel destin, so either adjali diddnt show his finish last time after reaching at that hurdle 3 out and finished tame after. or that form beforehand is rubbish.
 
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Scooby91 said:
This race really interests me. The respective yards obviously like the front 2 and you'd assume they're going to improve for there 1st run but the form of that maiden hurdle is piss poor. Sir erec beats gardens of Babylon on the flat but it's admirable what gardens of Babylon finds off the bridle so it's no foregone conclusion that sir erec is the better of the 2 imo. Chief justice is just not very good so for this to work out a decent race, he shouldn't be in the same parish here.
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Not sure why you think the form of the maiden is piss poor ?
Unless you think the Tommy stack horse is no good.
Carlos Biraghi is a massive danger in the triumph.
and Konitho ain't bad, as you well know.
 
Scooby91 said:
Authorizo of elliots also popped up in a maiden hurdle. You've got to be a fair horse for a juvenile to win an open maiden hurdle.
Coeur sublime would have gone very very close last time but once again chief justice was still around. He's a mile behind adjali/ cracker factory/ quel destin, so either adjali diddnt show his running or that form is piss
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yeah, and they don't do it enough for me, they get plenty of weight so it's often hard to weigh up.
I'm hoping Surin is his best. But like you've said, this race should tell us plenty today.

yeah, I think Couer sublime form is bad, just respecting what one or two on here have said about it, and the jockey switch. along with past history with elliott juveniles showing improved form in this under different tactics just makes me wonder,.
 
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Humble Pie said:
quevega said:
I backed all four the other week when I decided the Irish may be better on the whole.
Surin 25-1
Babylon

Similar thought process but missed Surin but on Fakir.
Boopa May v we’ll be right
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He may be right, but suggesting a lay on sir erec isn't exactly sticking your neck out in a race like this, considering the price and all.
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quevega said:
Not sure why you think the form of the maiden is piss poor ?
Unless you think the Tommy stack horse is no good.
Carlos Biraghi is a massive danger in the triumph.
and Konitho ain't bad, as you well know.
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Sir erec / tiger tap tap maiden was awful in terms of quality. And a race in general. But Irhe market would be thoroughly assuming they'd leave that behind.
 
Arkle said:
Who’s everyone fancy for today race then?
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Iv already backed gardens of Babylon ew antepost for today

And I'd be deffinately hoping lamarckise can finish infront of chief justice as an opener. Id be mighty dissapointed if she can't
 
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