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Supreme Novice Hurdle 2019

Scooby91 said:
He's won a ptp. A graded hurdle. And he runs again within the week.

He has been in training 18 months.
He will not lack for experiance at all.
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Next year horse for me, in all that time he hasn't had a proper race yet, clearly very talented and I have 33s for Ballymore but can't see how he wins it.
 
It’s been said on here earlier but horses that win the betfair hurdle generally don’t go on to win the supreme. But this wasn’t the betfair hurdle due to it being run at Ascot. Al Dancer got a good run round yesterday will he get as good a run at Cheltenham? we’ll see in just over three weeks time.

Personally I’m on Elixir de Nutz at 20/1 and with grand sancy beating a useful yardstick in sceau royal (a horse who is close to championship class) that form looks stronger than what Al Dancer has done. I’ll probably be eating my words at 1.35pm in three weeks
 
Elixir form franked yet again at the weekend. As Ive said all along he's the ew bet of this race. Thank god he's not trained by Hendo as the value would not be on offer. I'll keep chipping away at the value.
 
Arkle said:
Al dancer was good but what did he beat dirt wait and see AB when he comes out again

Watched it back again never seen a bigger overaction in my life this horse won’t win the surpreme
Look at the horses in behind come on
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Spot on. Keep it lovefest going as it'll enable me to load up on the only one who can beat Elixir.....Angels Breath.
 
quevega said:
I tried.
On the figures and opponents it was a stone better (at least half) than Al Dancer's
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Agreed.

The Kingwell isn't given the exposure of the Betfair.

EDN should probably be favorite for this race.
 
Owners risk losing both of them if they are split AB has the best chance of winning the surpreme not so the Ballymore so why risk it win the race you have the best chance with the horses in behind AD yesterday won’t be the same cailbre in 3 weeks time
 
Arkle said:
Owners risk losing both of them if they are split AB has the best chance of winning the surpreme not so the Ballymore so why risk it win the race you have the best chance with the horses in behind AD yesterday won’t be the same cailbre in 3 weeks time
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For what reason is angels breath best chance the supreme not the ballymore?
 
Innoko said:
Agreed.

The Kingwell isn't given the exposure of the Betfair.

EDN should probably be favorite for this race.
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Let's face it.
This race looks wide open.
Should be 10-1 co favourites of 6
 
quevega said:
Let's face it.
This race looks wide open.
Should be 10-1 co favourites of 6
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Never.
Sceau royal was having a hurdles prep for the qmcc. Vision des flos is not as good as his rating.
 
Scooby91 said:
Never.
Sceau royal was having a hurdles prep for the qmcc. Vision des flos is not as good as his rating.
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I can't be arsed going through the horses in behind Al Dancer,
but to keep it simple.
They're mostly shite and will never get near a graded contest.

Your habit of dismissing form when it suits is self gratification.
 
quevega said:
I can't be arsed going through the horses in behind Al Dancer,
but to keep it simple.
They're mostly shite and will never get near a graded contest.

Your habit of dismissing form when it suits is self gratification.
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And they were handicapped accordingly.
He couldn't have won any easier.

It's a fact that grand sancy isn't streets ahead of getaway trump. Lisp was in there also. Pretty hard to knock him.
 
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quevega said:
What price would you have wanted if sceau royal ran in the betfair yesterday off 139 ?
And would he have won.
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He wouldn't have beaten the winner. As wouldn't grand sancy whos already ran against the likes of lisp in handicap company.

He diddnt win like That, did he.

SR was a prep for his qmcc run. His hurdles rating is too high, as is the rating of vision des flos.
 
that was a prep yesterday for sceau royal and VDF needs further. Grand Sancy had a go at handicap pre xmas off 136...
 
swerved the question with assumptive assertions and repetition.

He did win it well though as is not without a chance. In an open race.
It's actually a race that most pro's would leave alone (on the day) for sure.
I'm disappointed in myself for messing about with it again this year.
 
quevega said:
swerved the question with assumptive assertions and repetition.

He did win it well though as is not without a chance. In an open race.
It's actually a race that most pro's would leave alone (on the day) for sure.
I'm disappointed in myself for messing about with it again this year.
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I answered with fact.

Grand sancy ran in a similar handicap of 136 with a 5 pounds claimer.

Why diddnt he win like that? He ran his race there is no excuses.
 
TC2 said:
that was a prep yesterday for sceau royal and VDF needs further. Grand Sancy had a go at handicap pre xmas off 136...
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we could go on forever like this though.
Blu cavalier lost in a seller in his previous race to a horse rated 116.
 
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