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Ryanair 2019

Kevloaf said:
I'd be all in on Altior at evens giving away 20 lbs.


They touch on this issue on the Final Furlong Pod this week (not Altior giving him 20 lbs - but handicapping in general) and it's really difficult not to agree with every single word of it.

The just of it, is that Frodon was effectively well-in, because the horses beneath him have inflated ratings. Obviously Frodon does too, but not as big a gap between him and what he should be, as what he is and grade 1 company. (That was my interpretation of the points anyway!)
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Kevin Blake is spot on.
 
Kevloaf said:
I'd be all in on Altior at evens giving away 20 lbs.


They touch on this issue on the Final Furlong Pod this week (not Altior giving him 20 lbs - but handicapping in general) and it's really difficult not to agree with every single word of it.

The just of it, is that Frodon was effectively well-in, because the horses beneath him have inflated ratings. Obviously Frodon does too, but not as big a gap between him and what he should be, as what he is and grade 1 company. (That was my interpretation of the points anyway!)
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Me too Kev. Altior could do the QMCC and Grand Annual double this year
 
They'd never do it... but after Altior wins the QMCC, if they HAD TO run him in the Ryanair, where do 'you/we' think he'd finish?

Let's say he runs the exact race he did last year... it'll take something out of him... but it's not like he'd be dead.

Usain Bolt would win the 100m then win the 200m a couple of days later.... tennis players go back to back in gruelling matches etc.
Footballers play twice a week...

It may be deemed as unfair on the horse, but a dual winner in the same festival would be absolutely blockbuster !


I remember thinking Douvan could have done it before he failed to win his QMCC :(
 
I'm sure someone will tell us the names , but hasn't it already been done at the festival ??.
 
Albergo.

1959 - won a division of the Gloucesterhire Hurdle (Supreme Novices)
1960 - ran twice - ran 2nd in the Champion Hurdle, then 2 days later won the County Hurdle under top weight of 12-5 by half a length as the 7-4 fav. (Owned by Mrs C Magnier).


Have found that so far. Very good effort indeed!!
 
And I also found this.


Ged Walsh on two Festival successes for Solfen

THE anticipation of a horse going to Cheltenham, never mind winning, was no less in 1960 than it is now.

Every year, many horses in October are touted as 'Cheltenham winners'. But by the time March comes along, many have not reached their earlier promise or have 'gone wrong' through one ailment or another. Stable stars are unstable.

In a stable near Thurles, in the village of Ballynonty, WT 'Willie' O'Grady had such a potential horse in Solfen.

Willie was born and reared in Little Island, County Cork, where his father bred and trained some horses with modest success.

He rode as an amateur at an early age, then turned professional, being Irish jumps champion in 1934 and 1935, having a 40.5 per cent win-to-rides ratio in the former year.

In the 1940s he began training, and had a steady stream of winners. But Ireland in the 1950s was not the Ireland of today, and it was hard to keep a stable going. Debts had mounted but were relieved by a nice coup on Rockbottom at Roscommon in 1957.

That year, a gentleman named Barney Naughton asked Willie to find him a horse. The horse bought was by Soladalo out of Fenora, and they named him Solfen.

He won twice at Limerick in 1958 and again in 1959. He won again at Leopardstown on January 15, 1960, then it was on to Cheltenham.

Solfen won the Broadway Steeplechase (now the Royal & SunAlliance) on the opening day of the Festival, ridden by Pat Taaffe, and then had a day off.

He was brought out again the next day and won the Spa (now World) Hurdle, ridden by Johnny Haine, and came home to a hero's welcome.

Willie continued to train until his untimely death, and he and his wife Mary bred many winners too. But perhaps the one he would be most proud of is his son, who has continued to turn out the winners from the same stable.

Willie's son is, of course, Edward O'Grady
 
Brilliant .. Love that !! . :) , cheers Jon.
 
" Nearly had a Connery there Rodney " !!, just saw Road to respect on Oddschecker @ 5-1 top of the Ryanair chs.
 
Can’t even see one

He still travels menancingly. If you buy into the pain barrier theory, it’s likely last years Gold Cup took him places he doesn’t want to go again at 3 miles. An aggressive ride over 2m5f could be the best way to ride him going forwards.
 
bobbyvalentino said:
Can’t even see one

He still travels menancingly. If you buy into the pain barrier theory, it’s likely last years Gold Cup took him places he doesn’t want to go again at 3 miles. An aggressive ride over 2m5f could be the best way to ride him going forwards.
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There's only 1 Gold cup. They'll still run him there and hope he sparks.
Hendos wife, friends, David Minton and the local cricket club own him. Would be very unlikely he'd go anywhere else. Butbhed ofcourse have a chance in the Ryanair.
 
BigChaang said:
Agree with you Bobby , Still think there will possibly be one or two better , but got a 20-1 ticket, to find out.
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That’s a great ticket. It’s a guess what’s turning up but looking at the market I think he should be around a 5/1 shot. Likely shorter on the day.
 
There HAS to be some NRNB value in this market before the Irish Gold CUp tomorrow.

I won't have time to do this tonight (or I'll be drunk by the time I get back to the computer)

I'm going to look at Disko, Coney Island, Kemboy perhaps? (Well I'll look at them all) and will do the same for the Gold Cup market... probably in the morning, but if anyone wants to save me time ;) .... crack on minions.:devilish::highly_amused:
 
Politologue confirmed to go for the Ryanair. Via ascot
 
Nico said briefly to Hendo that this would suit Might Bite if he was to bowl along in front, would want to see if they find a root cause of the bleed before chancing him again though but always thought the 3m+ stretched him a tad
 
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