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RSA Chase 2020

Kautothegreat8 said:
Slate house won’t be winning here ....... I’ll give you a simple reason why....... He isn’t very good
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Impressive for a horse to win the Kauto Star grade 1 without being very good.



Champ had no chase form as good yet, neither does Minella Indo?





Don't mistake this as me saying they can't win ..... but what you said is poppycock
 
I’m trying to look for non existent dangers to champ tbh! There the only 2 I can see any danger to champ so I hope your right mate haha!
 
I’m all chips I’m on the Champ/Paisley park double,been chipping away at it now for the last 4 months,I’m pretty certain Paisley is home and hosed,not 100% on champ,any alternatives that I might of missed to cover my outlay on the RSA??
 
Liverpoolchamp said:
Take the odds out of it for a second and that today was knowhere near good enough to win this for me,it’s a 3 horse race,Champ Minella Indo with Allaho an outside chance.
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I’d have to add Battleoverdoyen to that list
 
Faugheen / laurina would be dangerous. If either or both lined up
 
Carefully selected entered tomorrow over 3 surely won’t run??? When’s the 10up
 
Comments on here stating Minella Indo hasn’t been impressive. He’s ran over an inadequate trip and was given a very easy time by the jockey. He’s then ran over his optimum trip and got the job done jumping well. Has he ever looked like falling ? Is he stopping at the line ??? Why do we think that he’s going to be ridden like it’s unthinkable to be beaten ?? Do we not think he’s being ridden with a target in mind ??

So in short ...... this thing is an out and out stayer and is being trained for one race in March. To say he hasn’t been impressive is simply irrelevant. The ability is clearly there and come March the so called Champ will be put in his place convincingly.

One more question ....... Do we think Champ actually wants 3 miles ???
 
Kautothegreat8 said:
One more question ....... Do we think Champ actually wants 3 miles ???
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Yes
Without the fences though :)
 
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Kautothegreat8 said:
Comments on here stating Minella Indo hasn’t been impressive. He’s ran over an inadequate trip and was given a very easy time by the jockey. He’s then ran over his optimum trip and got the job done jumping well. Has he ever looked like falling ? Is he stopping at the line ??? Why do we think that he’s going to be ridden like it’s unthinkable to be beaten ?? Do we not think he’s being ridden with a target in mind ??

So in short ...... this thing is an out and out stayer and is being trained for one race in March. To say he hasn’t been impressive is simply irrelevant. The ability is clearly there and come March the so called Champ will be put in his place convincingly.

One more question ....... Do we think Champ actually wants 3 miles ???
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If you think its irrelevant that's fine. But he hasn't been impressive. He only ran to a figure of 143.

Champ wants 3 miles all day.
His only entries are 3M.
 
I’m just taken with HDB comments after he is always excited about what’s to come with this horse
 
Minella Indo (140P from 138P)

Apologies. I over estimated with 143 from memory.
 
The 3 mile thing with champ ...... go back and watch last years Ballymore then we’ll discuss.
Finished his race off at 2 mile 5 ??
 
Liverpoolchamp said:
Can’t get last year out my head mate,that’s why I didn’t mention him.
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Battleoverdoyen defo on the short list. Read below, will put your mind at ease

(Posted a while ago) Re Battleoverdoyen PU is never going to read well, but whilst the more recent winners of the RSA have been well known and emerged from either being victorious when last at Cheltenham (or going close), history paints a different picture. Blaklion pulled up in the Albert Bartlett before winning RSA. Boston’s Angel pulled up in an Albert Bartlett before winning an RSA. Might Bight couldn’t beat horses rated in the mid 120’s over hurdles 11 months before winning the RSA. O'Faolains Boy finished 20 lengths behind At Fishers Cross in the AB, before winning RSA. Lord Windermere finished 8th in his last hurdle race losing to rubbish horses before winning RSA. All of them won this having achieved nothing at Cheltenham over hurdles.
 
charlie said:
Battleoverdoyen defo on the short list. Read below, will put your mind at ease

(Posted a while ago) Re Battleoverdoyen PU is never going to read well, but whilst the more recent winners of the RSA have been well known and emerged from either being victorious when last at Cheltenham (or going close), history paints a different picture. Blaklion pulled up in the Albert Bartlett before winning RSA. Boston’s Angel pulled up in an Albert Bartlett before winning an RSA. Might Bight couldn’t beat horses rated in the mid 120’s over hurdles 11 months before winning the RSA. O'Faolains Boy finished 20 lengths behind At Fishers Cross in the AB, before winning RSA. Lord Windermere finished 8th in his last hurdle race losing to rubbish horses before winning RSA. All of them won this having achieved nothing at Cheltenham over hurdles.
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Exactly. If Battleoverdoyen was a repeat offender at Cheltenham then fair enough. But he’s only been their once so hard to take that too literally as their were other reported issues at hand.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Exactly. If Battleoverdoyen was a repeat offender at Cheltenham then fair enough. But he’s only been their once so hard to take that too literally as their were other reported issues at hand.
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The string of 1's next to his name help too :). I think a lot of us (myself included) thought CC would beat him but he didn't. I appreciate that race fell apart due the ground but he's definitely improving and a major player. He's the best jumper at the top of the market and whilst he's not the flashiest sort, I expect him to be there or thereabouts.
 
One that's massively under rated. And I'll basically be backing him wherever he goes. Whether that's the ultima the 4miler or
even here , is copperhead.

Hes improved bundles for fences, and hes winning really well with something in hand.
I dont think his current mark would stop him in another big handicap. But tizzards not shy of putting them in grade 1s.

I'm not one that likes handicap form in graded races what so ever.
but if he hypothetically went straight here. I'd genuinely take a chance on him ew at 33s.
 
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