Lobos
Fat Jockey Patron - DGC Winner 2021
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Dont let it get you down,
It's not the size of the boat......
Eh??? No idea what you just said.
Dont let it get you down,
It's not the size of the boat......
Champ rated 152 as a hurdler. Champ still rated 152 after chase debut win. Champ still rated 152 after 2nd chase win.
DANNY WIZZBANG initial chase rating of 139 already gone up tp 147 after 1st chase run.
Champ is stagnant and going nowhere and not jumping very well in the process. Assuming Danny wins the grade 1 kauto chase (which I do) then he will be rated 155+.
As Champ has not been brave enough to show his face then Danny will be officially superior to champ after Thursdays stunning win according to OR.
Champ has won a grade 2 after 2 chase starts and Dazzling has won a grade 2 after 1 chase start.
Champ was fit and ready for his chase runs, Danny was fat and hungry for his grade 2 debut win.
I dont see how you can claim the stagnant 152 rated Champ is better than Danny Whizzbang. Thats fantasy. Danny is clearly the superior horse and that will be official as of next Tuesday.
Couldnt disagree more. Champ at 3 miles is very much unexposed and will win the Gold Cup if he stays fit next year. I was blown away with how he managed to win at Newbury having done quite a bit wrong. I absolutely couldnt have him as stagnant, hes just done what he needs to.
Eh??? No idea what you just said.
Big statement is that. Let’s just be real for a moment.......... Champ literally hasn’t beat a horse of any real quality yet. He’s been beaten fair and square at Cheltenham by a horse who went on to get hammered at Punchestown. There was no excuse for that loss, nothing you can put it down too other than he wasn’t good enough. This term over fences on both starts have struggled to get the job done all be it over a inadequate trip. To say he’s going to be a Gold Cup winner on all known form and visuals is quite simply delusional
I’m still surprised Champ is as short as he is in the antepost market for the RSA. Yes he’s won 2 races this season but they’ve not been impressive enough to justify being 3/1 for the RSA. The best horse I’ve seen so far is Pym and he’s won at 3 miles at Cheltenham which very few of the current leading prospects in RSA market have. I still can’t believe the gulf in prices for a horse that has run the course & distance at Cheltenham and won.
I also think if Samcro stays fit and competes on Thursday he will be racing in the RSA come March, I think 3 mile will suit him and I think this years JLT will be the more competitive race.
Hoping Champagne Classic does run in the Savills chase, he has all makings of an RSA winner and i think doing over a few of the fancies for that RSA would surely tempt Gordon Elliot into a route change from the NHC with CC
I think Samcro will win at Limerick but still think he will line up in the RSA if he gets to the Festival.So you think Samcro gets beat at Limerick ?
I think Samcro will win at Limerick but still think he will line up in the RSA if he gets to the Festival.
Big statement is that. Let’s just be real for a moment.......... Champ literally hasn’t beat a horse of any real quality yet. He’s been beaten fair and square at Cheltenham by a horse who went on to get hammered at Punchestown. There was no excuse for that loss, nothing you can put it down too other than he wasn’t good enough. This term over fences on both starts have struggled to get the job done all be it over a inadequate trip. To say he’s going to be a Gold Cup winner on all known form and visuals is quite simply delusional
I’m still surprised Champ is as short as he is in the antepost market for the RSA. Yes he’s won 2 races this season but they’ve not been impressive enough to justify being 3/1 for the RSA. The best horse I’ve seen so far is Pym and he’s won at 3 miles at Cheltenham which very few of the current leading prospects in RSA market have. I still can’t believe the gulf in prices for a horse that has run the course & distance at Cheltenham and won.
I also think if Samcro stays fit and competes on Thursday he will be racing in the RSA come March, I think 3 mile will suit him and I think this years JLT will be the more competitive race.
:highly_amused: My crown has been slipping for a while, I’ll be hanging around with Richard III in a car park in the midlands before I know it!!Your close to losing your king status pimm.
Dont fall for the bulllshit articles. JLT all day.
Merry Christmas.
:highly_amused: My crown has been slipping for a while, I’ll be hanging around with Richard III in a car park in the midlands before I know it!!
I’m backing Samcro for the JLT, I just have a nagging doubt, probably from lots of comments I’ve read that he will improve with a more stamina test, that he’s going run over further which has caused me to hold off involving him in any multiples as a banker.
Does anyone know if and when Champ will be seen next?
Dipper New Years Day I believe
A lot of experienced successful punters on here in The Champ camp , his lack of fluency jumping ? ( irrespective of great engine )
Backed at 10/1 as a saver but just love Minella’s jumping and think there’s a chink in Champs jumping if and when jumping comes under pressure allied to Bazza sat nav then we’ll see what develops