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RSA Chase 2018

I wouldn't be too confident on how they'd split them up tro be honest.... IO was too short for the JLT for me to back and he's been beaten quite fairly there?

AL Boum Photo didn't jump quickly but I think he's a better horse than IO based on today.... Not put off anything in any race....

Monalee is very likeable - no single on him for this race but a double with Samcro at 27/1



He's actually in the ante post forum yankee isn't he...
EW Forum Ante Post Yankee - If The Cap Fits,Monalee,Cause of Causes,Willoughby Court

Agree he's been beaten fairly. But almost cerainly by two top class horses who may fight out the RSA, assuming they go there. I'd fancy Ruby will want to ride them both myself. Can't see a better Novice chaser in the stable (Footpad aside of course)
 
Didn't have him on my mind before that... any chance they'd go RSA?

I'll probably risk that to be honest

He ran a fantastic race. Closed out and switched at the end. Should never be 50/1
 
I wouldn't be too confident on how they'd split them up tro be honest.... IO was too short for the JLT for me to back and he's been beaten quite fairly there?

AL Boum Photo didn't jump quickly but I think he's a better horse than IO based on today.... Not put off anything in any race....

Monalee is very likeable - no single on him for this race but a double with Samcro at 27/1



He's actually in the ante post forum yankee isn't he...
EW Forum Ante Post Yankee - If The Cap Fits,Monalee,Cause of Causes,Willoughby Court

Hopefully get a run for our money on the Yankee Kev, HdB all but confirmed him for the RSA on Irish tv re: the Davy Russell being unable to commit given his connections with PP
 
Just re watched the flogas and what a lovely ride Noel gave Monalee today, happy to have bowl along in front and his jumping was superb! Very happy to see what he does in the RSA
 
Just re watched the flogas and what a lovely ride Noel gave Monalee today, happy to have bowl along in front and his jumping was superb! Very happy to see what he does in the RSA

No sign of cautiousness that you wouldn't have blamed him for given his fall at xmas, very positive ride from Noel Fehily suited today and most impressively he found loads when challenged
 
Delighted with Monalee. I've got him at 10s and 6s and in some nice looking multiples, and now that RSA stat about falling on previous start is no longer a worry!
 
Delighted with Monalee. I've got him at 10s and 6s and in some nice looking multiples, and now that RSA stat about falling on previous start is no longer a worry!

He lepped like a buck, so natural over fences
 
Monalee owners.

We're delighted, Henry's done a superb job with him," (Mike) Maloney said. "It was a horrific fall, he got hit by horses in behind and to get him back here over a trip that might be a little short of his best was really really good in a high-class field.

"He jumped super, Noel gave him a great ride."

As for his Cheltenham target, it's not cut and dry just yet, even if the RSA Chase would be a strong favourite at this stage.

"The RSA is a possible but the JLT might be an option as well, we'll have to see how he comes out of this now but he's got the pace for the JLT, too, I think.

"We'll all have a chat, but I'd say the RSA remains his most likely target."
 
Monalee owners.

We're delighted, Henry's done a superb job with him," (Mike) Maloney said. "It was a horrific fall, he got hit by horses in behind and to get him back here over a trip that might be a little short of his best was really really good in a high-class field.

"He jumped super, Noel gave him a great ride."

As for his Cheltenham target, it's not cut and dry just yet, even if the RSA Chase would be a strong favourite at this stage.

"The RSA is a possible but the JLT might be an option as well, we'll have to see how he comes out of this now but he's got the pace for the JLT, too, I think.

"We'll all have a chat, but I'd say the RSA remains his most likely target."

HdB's comments in the post race interview would tie in with that alright
 
Those comments make sense. I see him as a JLT horse as I've banged on about but I wouldn't be against him in the RSA.

I just like a JLT horse that could stay further ... like Willoughby Court.
 
He a former PTP horse whose best form has been over longer than 2 & 1/2 miles i couldn't see why connections would drop him in trip, he was pulling away at the post today on soft ground having made all, 3m on better ground in March would surely suit.
 
He a former PTP horse whose best form has been over longer than 2 & 1/2 miles i couldn't see why connections would drop him in trip, he was pulling away at the post today on soft ground having made all, 3m on better ground in March would surely suit.

His best form was today I'd say...2m5f ... and 1f out he'd still have won today...

At 3m he got beaten at Cheltenham?
 
2nd place in the Albert Bartlett for a horse that was always going to be better over fences is hardly a negative imo, he was comfortably beaten over 2m 4f getting weight from Death Duty before the festival.
 
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2nd place in the Albert Bartlett for a horse that was always going to be better over fences is hardly a negative imo

No I agree it's not a negative, just think his literal best form was today.

Sound like he'll go RSA though and he clearly does stay the trip so he looks to have a great chance. I just feel he'd be even more likely to win the JLT. I think the RSA is won by dour stayers more often than not and Monalee isn't just a stayer, clearly has some speed
 
No I agree it's not a negative, just think his literal best form was today.

Sound like he'll go RSA though and he clearly does stay the trip so he looks to have a great chance. I just feel he'd be even more likely to win the JLT. I think the RSA is won by dour stayers more often than not and Monalee isn't just a stayer, clearly has some speed

Yeah i agree today was his best form on paper, the ground at Leopardstown was hard going tho 2m 5f around there would be a similar test to 3m on good ground imo, i also think in recent years theres been lack of classy 3m novice chasers bar Might Bite and Coneygree who obviously sidestepped the novice route.
 
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His best form was today I'd say...2m5f ... and 1f out he'd still have won today...

At 3m he got beaten at Cheltenham?

I have backed the horse for the 'wrong race' but I get the impression that they think he is a stronger stayer than he might actually be. On decent ground at both Cheltenham and Punchestown he led only to get run out of it both times. Perhaps he was over the top at Punchestown but he isn't what you would call staying on that strongly at the end of either race.

If the ground happens to be on the soft side I don't think the trip is a plus. I do wonder now whether there is an element of we'll show Davy Russell about the choice of target.

Personally, I think it was his jumping more than anything else that produced yesterday's win.
 
I am starting to get quite strong feelings that Presenting Percy will beat Monalee in the RSA.... here are 5 reasons why....

1. Davy Russell I don't think will have gotten it wrong... he must know which horse he'd have preferred to be on... and he made his choice. That much is obvious. I think that is a positive for PP vs Monalee.

2. Monalee is pacier than he's given credit for. I would give Presenting Percy NO chance of winning against Monalee 2m4f. I agree with an earlier comment that there might be a bit of trying to prove Davy wrong about the RSA being the target

3. IF there is a Gold Cup horse out of the two, it is DEFINITELY PP. Already won over 3m5f so the stamina is not an issue for him. He is more of the BOAT that you need to be for the GC (And the RSA looking at previous winners!)

4. Over rating Monalee's hurdle form -
Over 3m he has beaten Battleford and Woods Wells who are 130 rated horse... neither done any winning since.
2nd in the AB, Best run but dreadful race? Apart from Wholestone arguably, who has 1 win since beating Agrapart on heavy...(and the winner... who hasn't been out to test the form, either way, he was beaten by him anyway)
3rd try... beaten again, weakened after the last and 12L back... (did finish ahead of PP that day and ABP)...

I am not KNOCKING that form, as it is solid enough, but 1 win in his 3 attempts at 3m does NOT scream that he excels over that trip to me....

5. Monalee's overall form figures (excluding bumpers) at 2m-2m4f 1211 / 2m5+ 124F - I prefer the four results he has at the shorter trips! I think Presenting Percy's best two pieces of form are at 3m and 3m5f .... whereas Monalee's is at 2m5f and 3m



If only it was a two horse race and I could steam in :highly_amused:
 
However PP best form is in handicaps while rated at 145/146 meanwhile Monalees is in graded company and has beaten PP straight up over 3m


Will end up being an on the day pick for me
 
I am starting to get quite strong feelings that Presenting Percy will beat Monalee in the RSA.... here are 5 reasons why....

1. Davy Russell I don't think will have gotten it wrong... he must know which horse he'd have preferred to be on... and he made his choice. That much is obvious. I think that is a positive for PP vs Monalee.

2. Monalee is pacier than he's given credit for. I would give Presenting Percy NO chance of winning against Monalee 2m4f. I agree with an earlier comment that there might be a bit of trying to prove Davy wrong about the RSA being the target

3. IF there is a Gold Cup horse out of the two, it is DEFINITELY PP. Already won over 3m5f so the stamina is not an issue for him. He is more of the BOAT that you need to be for the GC (And the RSA looking at previous winners!)

4. Over rating Monalee's hurdle form -
Over 3m he has beaten Battleford and Woods Wells who are 130 rated horse... neither done any winning since.
2nd in the AB, Best run but dreadful race? Apart from Wholestone arguably, who has 1 win since beating Agrapart on heavy...(and the winner... who hasn't been out to test the form, either way, he was beaten by him anyway)
3rd try... beaten again, weakened after the last and 12L back... (did finish ahead of PP that day and ABP)...

I am not KNOCKING that form, as it is solid enough, but 1 win in his 3 attempts at 3m does NOT scream that he excels over that trip to me....

5. Monalee's overall form figures (excluding bumpers) at 2m-2m4f 1211 / 2m5+ 124F - I prefer the four results he has at the shorter trips! I think Presenting Percy's best two pieces of form are at 3m and 3m5f .... whereas Monalee's is at 2m5f and 3m



If only it was a two horse race and I could steam in :highly_amused:

Personally I think Moralee chasing form looks pretty good, He has only ran 3 times over the bigger fences finishing 1F1 won well the first time, had a horrible fall and getting kicked when going well, still came out next time and won one of the best novice chases I have seen this year so far.

I know this is 3f longer but if he jumps as well as he did last time and at that speed on better ground plus keeps improving I could see him taking PP off his feet or anything else. IMO
 
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I am starting to get quite strong feelings that Presenting Percy will beat Monalee in the RSA.... here are 5 reasons why....

1. Davy Russell I don't think will have gotten it wrong... he must know which horse he'd have preferred to be on... and he made his choice. That much is obvious. I think that is a positive for PP vs Monalee.

2. Monalee is pacier than he's given credit for. I would give Presenting Percy NO chance of winning against Monalee 2m4f. I agree with an earlier comment that there might be a bit of trying to prove Davy wrong about the RSA being the target

3. IF there is a Gold Cup horse out of the two, it is DEFINITELY PP. Already won over 3m5f so the stamina is not an issue for him. He is more of the BOAT that you need to be for the GC (And the RSA looking at previous winners!)

4. Over rating Monalee's hurdle form -
Over 3m he has beaten Battleford and Woods Wells who are 130 rated horse... neither done any winning since.
2nd in the AB, Best run but dreadful race? Apart from Wholestone arguably, who has 1 win since beating Agrapart on heavy...(and the winner... who hasn't been out to test the form, either way, he was beaten by him anyway)
3rd try... beaten again, weakened after the last and 12L back... (did finish ahead of PP that day and ABP)...

I am not KNOCKING that form, as it is solid enough, but 1 win in his 3 attempts at 3m does NOT scream that he excels over that trip to me....

5. Monalee's overall form figures (excluding bumpers) at 2m-2m4f 1211 / 2m5+ 124F - I prefer the four results he has at the shorter trips! I think Presenting Percy's best two pieces of form are at 3m and 3m5f .... whereas Monalee's is at 2m5f and 3m



If only it was a two horse race and I could steam in :highly_amused:


Points 1 4 and 5 are absolute nonsense kev the last line in point 4 answers itself.
In a 2 horse race only a fall or an act of god could save you.
 
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