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Punchestown Festival. 2023.
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Cards look fantastic already. Where do you even start :excitement:
Good to see the UK trainers having some entered. BMG has an entry but surely wont be running again anytime soon??
The handicap chase on Wednesday looks very interesting, Willie has a good few entered. James Du Berlais at 2m5f off 11.04 could be interesting on this track if he doesn't take up the grade 1 entries.
Monkfish in the stayers hurdle would be exciting if he shows up
Bumpers look absolutely jam packed of nice types...on paper
Good to see the UK trainers having some entered. BMG has an entry but surely wont be running again anytime soon??
The handicap chase on Wednesday looks very interesting, Willie has a good few entered. James Du Berlais at 2m5f off 11.04 could be interesting on this track if he doesn't take up the grade 1 entries.
Monkfish in the stayers hurdle would be exciting if he shows up
Bumpers look absolutely jam packed of nice types...on paper
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There are going to be some brutal field sizes, particularly in the Open G1's considering Gordon has sent almost all of his main guns to Aintree bar Teahupoo. If you strike out those who have run at Fairyhouse or Aintree, or who have other engagements.
Obviously those from Fairyhouse have a chance of following up, but you'd think anything at Aintree has no chance at all.
Open Company
Gold Cup - Galopin, Envoi, Hewick and Indo.
Champion Hurdle - State Man, Vauban, Pied Piper
Champion Chase - Energumene, Blue Lord, Genteman de Mee, Captain Guinness
Stayers - Teahupoo, Klassical Dream, Ashdale Bob, Monkfish, Asterion Forlonge, Salvador Ziggy, Summerville Boy, Whatdeawant
Mares - Love Envoi, Brandy Love, Echoes in Rain, Queens Brook, Shewearsitwell, Theatre Glory
Novices
2m Novice Chase - El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Indiana Jones
3m Novice Chase - Journey With Me, Ramillies, Life in the Park, Mahler Mission, Classic Getaway, Feronily
2m Novice Hurdle - Marine Nationale, Facile Vega, Diverge, Il Etait Temps, Arctic Bresil
2m4 Novice Hurdle - Impaire at Passe, Gaelic Warrior, Champ Kiely High Definition
3m Novice Hurdle - Affordale Fury, Sandor Clegane, Three Card Brag, Embassy Gardens, Favori de Champdou, Shanablly Kid, Seabank Bistro, Kalanisi Star
4yo - Lossiemouth. Gala Marceau, Gust of Wind, Cinsa, Zarak the Brave, Tekao
Odds on Willie winning every G1?
Obviously those from Fairyhouse have a chance of following up, but you'd think anything at Aintree has no chance at all.
Open Company
Gold Cup - Galopin, Envoi, Hewick and Indo.
Champion Hurdle - State Man, Vauban, Pied Piper
Champion Chase - Energumene, Blue Lord, Genteman de Mee, Captain Guinness
Stayers - Teahupoo, Klassical Dream, Ashdale Bob, Monkfish, Asterion Forlonge, Salvador Ziggy, Summerville Boy, Whatdeawant
Mares - Love Envoi, Brandy Love, Echoes in Rain, Queens Brook, Shewearsitwell, Theatre Glory
Novices
2m Novice Chase - El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Indiana Jones
3m Novice Chase - Journey With Me, Ramillies, Life in the Park, Mahler Mission, Classic Getaway, Feronily
2m Novice Hurdle - Marine Nationale, Facile Vega, Diverge, Il Etait Temps, Arctic Bresil
2m4 Novice Hurdle - Impaire at Passe, Gaelic Warrior, Champ Kiely High Definition
3m Novice Hurdle - Affordale Fury, Sandor Clegane, Three Card Brag, Embassy Gardens, Favori de Champdou, Shanablly Kid, Seabank Bistro, Kalanisi Star
4yo - Lossiemouth. Gala Marceau, Gust of Wind, Cinsa, Zarak the Brave, Tekao
Odds on Willie winning every G1?
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Some horrendously small fields and huge odds on shots does look to be the order of the week.
With the usual 25 bumpers of course.
3m novice hurdle could be interesting enough at least.
The Mares Hurdle again looks more competitive than most races, which won't please some. :beguiled:
With the usual 25 bumpers of course.
3m novice hurdle could be interesting enough at least.
The Mares Hurdle again looks more competitive than most races, which won't please some. :beguiled:
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Interview with Mullins discussing his potential runners at Punchestown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0aZGL9gHQ&ab_channel=PunchestownRacecourse
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Yeah between the massive odds ons, impossible handicaps and 100 bumpers looks more of a watching brief than betting week
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Exactly this. The Punchestown handicaps are about as far away from my comfort zone as it gets. Unlikely to have many punts there at all.
For the best if I don't get drawn into the roll up conversation again :biggrin-new:
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Facile Vega goes for the 2m so Impaire sticks to the 2 and half. The first signs that Impaire could head chasing next season? If willie was thinking champ hdle for him next season he'd surely want to test him against IET, Diverge and co. ?
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Trained by anyone else and he'd be given a run over 2 mile here surely. See where he's at and then still has the option of going chasing if he's not the best of the 2 mile novice hurdlers.
The Grade 1s are as Mullins dominated as expected though.
3 mile novice chase looks quite interesting. Jockey bookings from Mullins also interesting, although maybe just consistent with last runs. Still, I can't really see a bet to be honest.
GDM each way if the ground remains decent is about as close as I've got to a Tuesday bet. :welcoming: Although Mark Walsh back in place of Danny Mullins is putting me off that a bit as well.
The Grade 1s are as Mullins dominated as expected though.
3 mile novice chase looks quite interesting. Jockey bookings from Mullins also interesting, although maybe just consistent with last runs. Still, I can't really see a bet to be honest.
GDM each way if the ground remains decent is about as close as I've got to a Tuesday bet. :welcoming: Although Mark Walsh back in place of Danny Mullins is putting me off that a bit as well.
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Don't think it will be as soft as everyone thinks Energumene needs. Currently yielding, so broadly good to soft and not much rain around for the week. I think they'll need to water at some point.
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Press Release as of 24-Apr-23 at 08:12 Issued by Racecourse... Yielding to Soft. 1mm of rain received overnight. Currently raining and possibility of up to 5mm (approx) this morning, mainly dry tomorrow and unsettled later in the week with showers possible on Wednesday night according to Met Eireann
Like the look of Classic Getaway myself. Yes coming back from a break but very taking chasing debut, so if fit and firing think he’s the play.
Sir G and Appreciate It raced only 2 weeks ago and neither have looked great thus far imo. Journey With Me just looks below Grade 1 material, think CG has more potential than any of the others to make into a top class Grade 1 chaser.
Sir G and Appreciate It raced only 2 weeks ago and neither have looked great thus far imo. Journey With Me just looks below Grade 1 material, think CG has more potential than any of the others to make into a top class Grade 1 chaser.
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Aye, who am I to question Willie but surprised he ran Appreciate It, Sir G and JDB at Fairyhouse. Hoping JDB ran so poorly that he didn't take much out of himself though. Appreciate It has started going left which has to be a concern here. And Sir G is a questionable jumper and doesn't seem to want 3 miles.
CG I thought might want softer ground, although it looks softer than it did yesterday. And just lacks chasing experience and hurdle class to put me off a bit. Can see why you'd like him as the potential though, chase debut was good. And I prefer him to the others at similar prices.
Agree with JWM as well. Suspect he's below top class.
Rest of the card is a real struggle for me. Was considering The Model Kingdom or Shecouldbeanything in the Mares race. But they're still so keen on Night and Day (who I can't back after pulling up last time) that I'll probably just swerve that race all together. Or reverse forecast the first two named for some interest.
GL anyone having a bet
CG I thought might want softer ground, although it looks softer than it did yesterday. And just lacks chasing experience and hurdle class to put me off a bit. Can see why you'd like him as the potential though, chase debut was good. And I prefer him to the others at similar prices.
Agree with JWM as well. Suspect he's below top class.
Rest of the card is a real struggle for me. Was considering The Model Kingdom or Shecouldbeanything in the Mares race. But they're still so keen on Night and Day (who I can't back after pulling up last time) that I'll probably just swerve that race all together. Or reverse forecast the first two named for some interest.
GL anyone having a bet
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I've gone for a very small ew play on Il Etait Tempts, Classic Getaway, and Gentleman De Mee. All two places, but only six runners in each so no harm there.
Il Etait Temps made two shuddering errors in the Supreme and Danny tried to make up for them too quickly rather than nursing him back into the race. I think the DRF form is probably about right and FV is a few lbs better, but at 5/1, I'm happy to risk it. I think Diverge's performance in the Supreme might be being overplayed. He was ridden for a place - which to be fair is exactly what Patrick said he would do beforehand - and didn't get involved in the battle upfront. If he's put into the race this time, it could be a different outcome. I'd love Found A Fifty to go well, but that Aintree run was diabolical.
Classic Getaway for reasons highlighted by others. It is a tricky race though and although Sir Gerhard and Appreciate It haven't lived up to expectation, they have consistently run to an average level and that might be enough here. In fact, Sir Gerhard did seem to warm to the task last time out and would be my pick of the big two at least. JWM is a horse who is below top level but is fresh and now tends to run consistently so might well be the one to beat.
Gentleman De Mee is one I am taking a risk on. I am chancing that rather than him being a good ground horse, he is a spring horse. A bit like Sire Du Berlais. Will also come in fresh having missed Cheltenham and Aintree. His injury is meant to have been a minor niggle rather than anything worse. Obviously will be a mammoth task to get the better of Energumene.
Il Etait Temps made two shuddering errors in the Supreme and Danny tried to make up for them too quickly rather than nursing him back into the race. I think the DRF form is probably about right and FV is a few lbs better, but at 5/1, I'm happy to risk it. I think Diverge's performance in the Supreme might be being overplayed. He was ridden for a place - which to be fair is exactly what Patrick said he would do beforehand - and didn't get involved in the battle upfront. If he's put into the race this time, it could be a different outcome. I'd love Found A Fifty to go well, but that Aintree run was diabolical.
Classic Getaway for reasons highlighted by others. It is a tricky race though and although Sir Gerhard and Appreciate It haven't lived up to expectation, they have consistently run to an average level and that might be enough here. In fact, Sir Gerhard did seem to warm to the task last time out and would be my pick of the big two at least. JWM is a horse who is below top level but is fresh and now tends to run consistently so might well be the one to beat.
Gentleman De Mee is one I am taking a risk on. I am chancing that rather than him being a good ground horse, he is a spring horse. A bit like Sire Du Berlais. Will also come in fresh having missed Cheltenham and Aintree. His injury is meant to have been a minor niggle rather than anything worse. Obviously will be a mammoth task to get the better of Energumene.