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Novice Chasers 2027

Baron Noir and Bossman Jack both entered up over 2m 3f at Carlisle on Tuesday. Sure big Dan said Bossman would start over 2 and work his way up to 3 miles if he needed it. Wonder if he has changed his mind and now has the BANC firmly on the radar. Interesting to see if he is declared.
 
Yosser said:
Baron Noir and Bossman Jack both entered up over 2m 3f at Carlisle on Tuesday. Sure big Dan said Bossman would start over 2 and work his way up to 3 miles if he needed it. Wonder if he has changed his mind and now has the BANC firmly on the radar. Interesting to see if he is declared.
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Think he'll be skipping Cheltenham altogether this season. Sounds like he's their future GC horse and they don't want to push him this early.
 
Baron Noir is proper underestimated though imo. He could easily surprise a few.
 
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Lobos said:
Baron Noir is proper underestimated though imo. He could easily surprise a few.
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Deffo. Good form ties. Surely they aren't throwing him in against that lot at Cheltenham on Saturday first time out.
 
OPS declared for Saturday at least
 
riccirich said:
Not a great comment for hes on fire banc backers, but would still take comments with a small pinch of salt.

Tomorrow's declarations will be another hint. If king rasko gets declared for the 2m beginners then chances rise that the hes on fire comment could be nonsense. It looks like one of rasko and mighty park will run in the 2m, and the other will run in the 2 and a half beginners. While mighty park could run in the 2m, that would mean himself and narciso both for jp going down the 2m route seemingly, along with maybe proactif too. Most probably would have expected mighty park to move up in trip, and if he does, that would likely mean king rasko in the 2m.

Unless of course narciso isn't going chasing, despite mullins apparently confirming today that he is. Which would further muddy the waters and make you think maybe he's not being straight about he's on fire either.
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Hard to forget the Gaelic Warrior saga ,
Brown adv , Stayers hdl , e,t,c and runs in the Arkle ..
I reckon these Trainers get asked every day , what horse or race ???., probably the first one that they think of.
F.w.i.w. , a mate asked willie at York a few weeks ago for a horse to watch for Cheltenham and he said K.R.GREY for the Champion hurdle .... watch this space .😂.
 
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riccirich said:
No, nothing about if he's running. Just that comment from earlier was only thing I can see that was said about him.
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Mighty Park in the 2m 1f saturday and no King Rasko.
see if he gets entry for sunday tomorrow now
 
Quevega said:
Mighty Park in the 2m 1f saturday and no King Rasko.
see if he gets entry for sunday tomorrow now
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Remember when the same connections got Fact To File beat by American Mike :ROFLMAO: on chase debut!

I can see the same happening here for MP!
 
I've covered mighty park for the arkle at 33s, but not too much as can still see him stepping up. Both narciso and proactif going chasing for jp apparently, and would be a bit unusual to be moving those up in trip at 5 when they haven't shown they need it yet. If one or both impress on debut, they'll be kept to 2m for the foreseeable imo. Kawaboomga and love me tender the other two obvious ones for jp in the browns I think at the moment. I'd expect love me tender to not be up to top class at the minute. And kawaboomga I still think could be but was disappointing at the end of last season, and still no definite confirmation he's actually going chasing. So theres an opening there for mighty park to move up, given he's bred for further anyway and was poor in the supreme. But if he looks like sprinter sacre on debut then that would obviously change things.

I still wouldnt be too quick to think king rasko is going further though based off mighty park being declared at 2m. If king rasko is declared for Sunday then I'd usually think arkle bets are practically in the bin, if mighty park was owned by anyone but jp, in which case mullins would have chosen to split them that way. In this case though, it could be just that jp has decided to start mighty park at 2m, leaving king rasko in the other race if hes ready to run. Would still be a negative of course if he is declared, as you'd say he could have just waited for another 2m beginners. But possible mullins has others for those and king rasko is just ready to run right now.
 
….KRG;

‘He’s a horse I’m really looking forward to this season in novice chases. This time last year I would have said he’d end up being an Arkle horse, but with what he did last season I’d say he’ll be a Brown Advisory horse. He does very good work at home for us. I think he’s a fair horse.’
 
Eggs said:
….KRG;

‘He’s a horse I’m really looking forward to this season in novice chases. This time last year I would have said he’d end up being an Arkle horse, but with what he did last season I’d say he’ll be a Brown Advisory horse. He does very good work at home for us. I think he’s a fair horse.’
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Bit of worry when he doesn't know if he's an Arkle or BANC type.

With the exception of one, maybe two, I think previous Turners winners have struggled the following season!
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Bit of worry when he doesn't know if he's an Arkle or BANC type.

With the exception of one, maybe two, I think previous Turners winners have struggled the following season!
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That's been a weird trend but can't see any reason for it. I'd just put it down to variance.

Envoi Allen and Samcro all won at the festival again, and Ballyburn should have!🤮
 
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