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Novice Chasers 2027

Well technically from what I seen he didnt say king rasko would be going three miles either, just hinted at it while saying if you asked him last year he would have said arkle. Usual vague shtick. But paired with him saying he's on fire targeting arkle then people putting two and two together.
 
Lobos said:
When??
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"If you'd asked me last year where is he going to go over fences I would have said Arkle, but he ends up winning the Turners, which would suggest he's a Brown Advisory horse this year."

Today.

Appreciate you could try and read that differently. But at the same time as the He's on Fire quotes it's a clear initial direction for the pair.
 
Thanks guys. Not backed either yet and still to make up my mind. I'd say I would be keener on HOF Arkle. Not sure re KRG. Don't see him as a stayer. Think they should have gone CH with him.
 
King Rasko Grey will be in between all season IMO.
And depending on his jumping and way of going and how he ranks against others. This will determine where he runs at the festival.
If for some reason he becomes 2nd or third ranked in either division then I'd say he's still slightly more likely arkle.

I've only backed 2 horses for 2 targets
Love Me tender I added after the weekend for the turners but mainly as a possible trade if i time it right.
And He's on Fire for arkle and BANC.
My timings already wrong on that as B365 already greyed out. Will need to keep a watch on that.
 
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Interestingly, him saying arkle means he's another on the list as a potential Champion hurdle Supersub.
Was available at 200-1 for a few quid a couple of weeks back.
I've probably wasted a few quid on all these potential champion hurdle horses.:rolleyes:
Overthinking it more than likely.
 
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Benjy23 said:
"If you'd asked me last year where is he going to go over fences I would have said Arkle, but he ends up winning the Turners, which would suggest he's a Brown Advisory horse this year."

Today.

Appreciate you could try and read that differently. But at the same time as the He's on Fire quotes it's a clear initial direction for the pair.
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Possibly another Willie ramble.
He said straight after the Turners that he thought he could be a champion hurdle horse.
Issue with Willie is like many other trainers, especially in his stable tours. Wind him up and let him go, it's why he can often contradict himself within 5 minutes.
 
Carnage at Taunton said:
Winning Turners suggests BANC horse??
Without looking I can’t think of too many that have won Turners and gone BANC following year
Am I wrong?
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Ballyburn.

I know what you are saying. But we are back to the 2 and a half being a handicap now, and how that trend will be more popular now going forward, winners going RSA (if chasing) imo.
 
Carnage at Taunton said:
Winning Turners suggests BANC horse??
Without looking I can’t think of too many that have won Turners and gone BANC following year
Am I wrong?
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we had the turners chase though until recently.
But Ballyburn, Sir Gerhard. And many placed horses have also.
So yes you are wrong. :ROFLMAO:
 
That's the silly thing that I've thought all along - the thinking seems to be (going by markets) that king rasko is either a champion hurdle horse if he stays over hurdles, or a brown advisory horse if going over fences, which doesn't make much sense 🤣

He's either a champion hurdle/arkle type
Or a browns/stayers type

If they genuinely believed what they were saying that he could run in a champion hurdle, then why would they be starting off over two and a half miles over fences with a view to moving up to three miles?

Unless his jumping isn't good enough for two miles, but then why go chasing at all if they genuinely thought he could be champion hurdle class.
 
riccirich said:
That's the silly thing that I've thought all along - the thinking seems to be (going by markets) that king rasko is either a champion hurdle horse if he stays over hurdles, or a brown advisory horse if going over fences, which doesn't make much sense 🤣

He's either a champion hurdle/arkle type
Or a browns/stayers type

If they genuinely believed what they were saying that he could run in a champion hurdle, then why would they be starting off over two and a half miles over fences with a view to moving up to three miles?

Unless his jumping isn't good enough for two miles, but then why go chasing at all if they genuinely thought he could be champion hurdle class.
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Have they said he's running Sunday yet ?
 
My banc bets have taken a right kick in the nads, he's on fire and bossman jack looking like they could be heading elsewhere, leaves me with johnny's jury.
 
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Probably only one of a few on here that may be happy to see the He's On Fire news.

This was from the June Yankee thread back in May (also mentioned in other threads on the forum as well);
ComplyOrDie said:
I wouldn't pigeonhole He's On Fire to the BANC, which is one of my other concerns with him (deciding which race to stick him in).

Whilst he looked like he had a hell of an engine, he's also not looked short of speed and being by Chanducoq, the Arkle should be under consideration also.
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It goes without saying I backed him for both races, but with free bets, but fairly stacked, so I was going to be happy enough either way, and although he could still go either way realistically, it's nice to know my thoughts are in line with the master trainer, and the breeding, although I can't be 100%, has come into play at some point with Willie, I'm sure.

Now for Narciso to do a Buveur D'air (1 run over fences then revert back to hurdles) and it will be lovely!
 
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ComplyOrDie said:
Probably only one of a few on here that may be happy to see the He's On Fire news.

This was from the June Yankee thread back in May (also mentioned in other threads on the forum as well);


It goes without saying I backed him for both races, but with free bets, but fairly stacked, so I was going to be happy enough either way, and although he could still go either way realistically, it's nice to know my thoughts are in line with the master trainer, and the breeding, although I can't be 100%, has come into play at some point with Willie, I'm sure.

Now for Narciso to do a Buveur D'air (1 run over fences then revert back to hurdles) and it will be lovely!
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I shall try and get a few free bets on him for the arkle, trouble is i don't get too many nowadays.
 
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I expect HOF will start over shorter (even 2m3 like Gaelic did) and only step up if he looks slow. Problem is nothing will want to get near him in the beginners chase and he'll scare half the opposition in the G1 off so he'll end up staying over shorter haha
 
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I only rolled him up this Sunday just gone and was feeling pleased with myself with the result. Kayserispor made me wait until the 92nd minute and i was celebrating a coo. Done me there Willie, though i have got half of Dinoblue done too so every cloud and all that.
 
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