Mares Chase 2021

[Lobos]

BDD into 4's in places for this today. I'm fairly sure she'll come here because it's the easiest race. Nothing easy about taking on Honeysuckle over 2m4f as she learnt last year, and I doubt they're in a rush to give a 10 year old servant like BDD a tough time. Willie goes for the easiest option unless his hand is forced. RR wont force him so I am confident she will end up here. The cherry on the cake is how sick Concertista looks. He has a very good one there that is more than capable of serving it up to Honeysuckle, again making this race IMO more likely. People are wondering when we will see her - I don't want to see her before the fez because she runs really well off a lay off, and would have absolutely pissed in at 10/11 in the mares hurdle were it not for falling, and that was after being off 11 months. My main concern was PTKO coming here and not QMCC, but I think PTKO ran a gallant enough effort in defeat vs CPS for her connections to take aim at her beloved Cheltenham.

I think plenty on here will be agreeing with every word of that. Well said.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

We don't know how fit BDD is after her setback and they might struggle to find a suitable race over fences so you could be right. I'd be happy with her going straight there for this race with or without a run. Those pre festival gallops at Leopardstown have turned into a bit of a waste of time but it would be lovely to see her pinging a few fences down the back straight there.

I remember your namesake turning out after racing at Leopardstown many years ago, doing a great piece of work and then absolutely bolting up in the Coral Cup:love_heart:

 

[Spectre]

Does anyone actually know where BDD is with her training, or even if she’s back in full work yet? All our debate could be pointless!

 

[Skysthelimit]

I remember your namesake turning out after racing at Leopardstown many years ago, doing a great piece of work and then absolutely bolting up in the Coral Cup:love_heart:

Skysthelimit travelled all over the other horses he worked with in his gallop and everyone was interested in the name of the grey horse. He was very well supported in the run up to the race but drifted on the day as I backed him again.

I remember watching the race from the lawn and he travelled like a dream and was cantering at the top of the hill (did Barry have a cheeky look round?) sluiced through the field and was still on the bridle at the last. He didn't find as much as I thought he would on the run in but still won well. It was the day that Denman got beat in the Sun Alliance (Ballymore) and Kauto fell in the Champion Chase.

I've tried a few times to find a re-run of the race online but can't find it anywhere. If anyone knows when I can find a re-running of the 2006 Coral Cup, let me know.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Skysthelimit travelled all over the other horses he worked with in his gallop and everyone was interested in the name of the grey horse. He was very well supported in the run up to the race but drifted on the day as I backed him again.

I remember watching the race from the lawn and he travelled like a dream and was cantering at the top of the hill (did Barry have a cheeky look round?) sluiced through the field and was still on the bridle at the last. He didn't find as much as I thought he would on the run in but still won well. It was the day that Denman got beat in the Sun Alliance (Ballymore) and Kauto fell in the Champion Chase.

I've tried a few times to find a re-run of the race online but can't find it anywhere. If anyone knows when I can find a re-running of the 2006 Coral Cup, let me know.

No sure what you were expecting! It was the biggest winning distance of the week and he barely came off the bridle.nthego:

* just checked and it was only 4 lengths. I was certain it was further than that!

 

[Skysthelimit]

I don't think I've seen the race since 2006 so I'm not sure whether he won more easily than I thought and whether BG did take the piss at the top of the hill. I'm happy with short head winners at the festival as well :sneakiness:

 

[Middle_Of_March]

I’ve said this a few times on here that I still think it’s crucial to remember that Rich Ricci has always said that if a Mares Chase was made at the festival, it would be the ideal race for BDD. He said that. He believes that. It’s the easiest race to win. I just don’t see why Benie wouldn’t turn up in it. She will. And she will win. And she will be 1/2 on the day. Imo of course.

 

[charlie]

I’ve said this a few times on here that I still think it’s crucial to remember that Rich Ricci has always said that if a Mares Chase was made at the festival, it would be the ideal race for BDD. He said that. He believes that. It’s the easiest race to win. I just don’t see why Benie wouldn’t turn up in it. She will. And she will win. And she will be 1/2 on the day. Imo of course.

I had no idea this was the case. Even more sure it's here or nowhere now.

 

[The King Pimm]

As talented and brilliant as Benie is she is still a 10 year old mare so to get her race fit and schooled so she’s ready to race at the festival with or without a prep run is a big ask and expectation. I think we will hear very little about her progress or state of health until closer to the date. I’d personally be surprised if she turns up at all.

 

[Kevloaf]

A lot of people jumping on the bandwagon now... based on Salsaretta being average today.

Nothing has changed since this was discussed pre-season, and early season and right up until PP went shortest price.

They're currently bigger than the 4/1 mentioned, so get off the bandwagon and put down the handbook.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah




The last two lines are a song for anyone not hip and happening, or from Sheffield.

I wonder what her NRNB price will be for this?

 

[Middle_Of_March]

A lot of people jumping on the bandwagon now... based on Salsaretta being average today.

Nothing has changed since this was discussed pre-season, and early season and right up until PP went shortest price.

They're currently bigger than the 4/1 mentioned, so get off the bandwagon and put down the handbook.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah




The last two lines are a song for anyone not hip and happening, or from Sheffield.

I wonder what her NRNB price will be for this?

It doesn’t matter in any way whatsoever but I like to think of myself as one of the OGs for the Benie to the Mares Chase campaign on here! In fact, somewhere on this site on the day they announced the race being added nearly two years ago, I named Benie as the first winner of the race.

I love her. She’s a superstar. And there is no made in training that deserves to be the first winner of a new festival race for mares. She really really should be a three time Mares Hurdle winner and already a Cheltenham legend. Let her win the mares Chase and be the only horse to have ever won both of the big races for Mares at the festival.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

I had no idea this was the case. Even more sure it's here or nowhere now.

I wish I could find the video but it doesn’t exist as far as I’ve looked before. But it was on a live interview with Rich Rick from Matt Chapman on On The Line about three years ago. Ricci was in the studio as a guest and was adamant that if they ever made a mares Chase, he already had the perfect mare for it in Benie. In fact, he said she’s ‘arguably a better chaser in our eyes than hurdler but there’s no reason for her to be over fences when there’s no mares Chase’. So now there is such a race... she absolutely will be running in it at the festival I have little doubt. She’s a good ting lads... a wheelbarrow job!

 

[Kevloaf]

It doesn’t matter in any way whatsoever but I like to think of myself as one of the OGs for the Benie to the Mares Chase campaign on here! In fact, somewhere on this site on the day they announced the race being added nearly two years ago, I named Benie as the first winner of the race.

I love her. She’s a superstar. And there is no made in training that deserves to be the first winner of a new festival race for mares. She really really should be a three time Mares Hurdle winner and already a Cheltenham legend. Let her win the mares Chase and be the only horse to have ever won both of the big races for Mares at the festival.

Haha, we all know saying something first is the most important thing on here :chuncky:

I was just prodding you and charlie to be fair.... pl,aying devil's advocate as I'd love her to be here...

....but today actually was only a tiny positive but reading the pages you'd think Willie had come out wearing a Benie Des Dieux horse costume and starting jumping the rails whilst being interviewed shouting BDD wins all...

 

[Kevloaf]

I wish I could find the video but it doesn’t exist as far as I’ve looked before. But it was on a live interview with Rich Rick from Matt Chapman on On The Line about three years ago. Ricci was in the studio as a guest and was adamant that if they ever made a mares Chase, he already had the perfect mare for it in Benie. In fact, he said she’s ‘arguably a better chaser in our eyes than hurdler but there’s no reason for her to be over fences when there’s no mares Chase’. So now there is such a race... she absolutely will be running in it at the festival I have little doubt. She’s a good ting lads... a wheelbarrow job!

Willie has also said very similar comments too hasn't he. Although he did say it about Laurina as well :watermelon:

 

[Kautothegreat8]

Benie wins by half the track ..... THE END :cheerful:

 

[Kautothegreat8]

All three would definitely be in the mix," he confirmed. "Going chasing with Benie Des Dieux is always a consideration. Every year, at this stage of the year, fences are an option for her. It's not that we said we're not going over fences – it's just that we went down the hurdle route as the seasons progressed for different reasons. I'll run her in whichever race I'd be hoping that she might go closest in."

The above was comments made by Willie back in October.

I'd be pretty confident the mares chase would be her best chance of a win.

 

[Kevloaf]

A combination of:
Concertista looking very good
Salsaretta not looking very good
Honeysuckle looking good
Colreevy winning a Grade 1
Paisley Park back to form
Going well 'without a run'
Easiest race to win
Put The Kettle On's connections being bold
This being the 'first' race making it more important than the fact it's a grade 2
Owners letting trainer do what he wants
Cut to favourite despite not being seen



All very, very positive things for Benie Des Certainty to win this race. :drunk:

 

[Kautothegreat8]

A combination of:
Concertista looking very good
Salsaretta not looking very good
Honeysuckle looking good
Colreevy winning a Grade 1
Paisley Park back to form
Going well 'without a run'
Easiest race to win
Put The Kettle On's connections being bold
This being the 'first' race making it more important than the fact it's a grade 2
Owners letting trainer do what he wants
Cut to favourite despite not being seen



All very, very positive things for Benie Des Certainty to win this race. :drunk:

I'm lumping my lifes saving on and I'm off to Dubai :very_drunk:

 

[Nortons who]

A combination of:

All very, very positive things for Benie Des Certainty to win this race. :drunk:

Well since she is obviously now the sister of Presenting Certainty, I can't see the point of the others turning up. Hopefully Kev you have done them both as a related win double Certainty!

 

[Kevloaf]

Well since she is obviously now the sister of Presenting Certainty, I can't see the point of the others turning up. Hopefully Kev you have done them both as a related win double Certainty!

Haha, I will on the day.

Or is PC is being kept back for the GN, that'll be the roll up