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Listowel Races

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Yeah i think i have, i'm new to the website, i'm just trying to find my way round. i do apologize
 
I like the look of Dell Arca for the Kerry National. Two recent flat races and a previous winning hurdle race have kept his chase mark to just 1lb higher (nice weight of 10st 9lb) than when he was 3rd at Cheltenham in April and subsequently on ground probably too quick at Newton Abbot in May.
I’m sure connections could be eyeing the Ascot bonus of £10,000 for a horse winning either the Sodexo gold cup in November or the Bollinger silver cup in December having been placed in the Kerry national.
25/1 into 20/1 with B365 (enhanced place 18/1).
 
Unhomme said:
I like the look of Dell Arca for the Kerry National. Two recent flat races and a previous winning hurdle race have kept his chase mark to just 1lb higher (nice weight of 10st 9lb) than when he was 3rd at Cheltenham in April and subsequently on ground probably too quick at Newton Abbot in May.
I’m sure connections could be eyeing the Ascot bonus of £10,000 for a horse winning either the Sodexo gold cup in November or the Bollinger silver cup in December having been placed in the Kerry national.
25/1 into 20/1 with B365 (enhanced place 18/1).
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I’ll have a look at that now
 
mossy090814 said:
Hi Archie, unlucky with the last tip.Hillary View didn't jump very well but manged to grab second. do you fancy anything else today?
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Hilary view was on the daily movers thread mossy, you may have seen it there.
 
BoF - how is your lad this morning ?
Can’t have been easy watching him struggle so soon in the race, hope he’s back fit and healthy
 
Istabraq said:
BoF - how is your lad this morning ?
Can’t have been easy watching him struggle so soon in the race, hope he’s back fit and healthy
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Thanks for asking Ista. He was very distressed after the race (despite only covering under 2 miles). Peter said he looked unhappy when being saddled and Johnny Burke said he seemed to resent even going onto the track and that he never jumped two fences the same. We are having him scoped this morning but are pretty sure he got himself stressed so much that the ulcers are back. It's a real shame and it's not as if he has had a bad experience on the course. If confirmed with ulcers then, I am afraid, that will be it for him and we will find a good home for him (he may even stay at Peter's). If anyone knows a good horse psychiatrist please let me know. I will update this post later when we have the results.
 
Sorry to hear that BoF.
Do the ulcers only appear through stress and/or stress of racing ?
I guess what i’m asking is whether he can enjoy a happy retirement without issue ?
 
Istabraq said:
Sorry to hear that BoF.
Do the ulcers only appear through stress and/or stress of racing ?
I guess what i’m asking is whether he can enjoy a happy retirement without issue ?
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For him , it just seems to the whole raceday experience that stresses him out. Ber (Peter's wife) said his eyes were looking down in racecourse stables, almost like he was sulking and unhappy. Whereas, when he is in the field at home (we keep him out as much as possible) he is relaxed and, as the Irish would say, 'there's not a bother on him' . For that reason, I do genuinely believe he will have a happy retirement and, if we could find something he loves, maybe dressage or show jumping, then that could be an option. I will update with the actuals results later after we have travelled to the yard and when we get to Dublin. I really appreciate the interest.
 
Best of luck with him BoF, could be a spell hunting would might be what he enjoys.
I wish you well
 
Decent handicap hurdle there today - Davids Charm owes me a bit from Galway.
 
Best wishes BoF.

I've thoroughly enjoyed following Bay Of Freedoms racing career and I hope he has a long and happy retirement if that's the road you decide to go down.

FM
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Best wishes BoF.

I've thoroughly enjoyed following Bay Of Freedoms racing career and I hope he has a long and happy retirement if that's the road you decide to go down.

FM
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Thank you FM However, I am in a state of shock: he does not have any ulcers and seems absolutely fine. None of which explains his run, the fact he was distressed and could hardly walk and that he didn't want to go onto the track. I have written a fuller update in the blog: http://www.cheltenhamdream.com/blog-diary/2018/9/14/calling-any-and-all-horse-psychiatrists. It must be in his head but how do we get it out of his head??
If anyone has any ideas then please let me know - we are struggling to figure it all out.
 
Bayoffreedom said:
Thank you FM However, I am in a state of shock: he does not have any ulcers and seems absolutely fine. None of which explains his run, the fact he was distressed and could hardly walk and that he didn't want to go onto the track. I have written a fuller update in the blog: http://www.cheltenhamdream.com/blog-diary/2018/9/14/calling-any-and-all-horse-psychiatrists. It must be in his head but how do we get it out of his head??
If anyone has any ideas then please let me know - we are struggling to figure it all out.
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Maybe he needs a companion Bof, some horses seem to relax more and gain enormous benefit from that little bit of familiarity.
 
Sounds like my missus, are you sure he's not a mare....
 
BoF - I seem to remember the great Desert Orchid sharing a stable with a sheep, they took the sheep out once and Dessie got depressed/sulked and worked poorly, stuck the sheep back in the box and he was fine.
I can't remember whether the sheep traveled with him to the races but if your lad has a close affinity with a stable pony then you can try putting them together more....
 
Istabraq said:
BoF - I seem to remember the great Desert Orchid sharing a stable with a sheep, they took the sheep out once and Dessie got depressed/sulked and worked poorly, stuck the sheep back in the box and he was fine.
I can't remember whether the sheep traveled with him to the races but if your lad has a close affinity with a stable pony then you can try putting them together more....
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I think it makes sense. Of course there was also Remittance Man and Nobby the sheep and , more recently, American Pharoah and Smokey the pony. We have to try it , at least. Peter also has two cows but that may not be such a good idea!
 
Bayoffreedom said:
I think it makes sense. Of course there was also Remittance Man and Nobby the sheep and , more recently, American Pharoah and Smokey the pony. We have to try it , at least. Peter also has two cows but that may not be such a good idea!
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Best jumper of a fence I have ever seen Remittance Man.
Good luck with yours BoF, clearly a trial and error situation, one day you'll get it right and he'll win an egg and spoon race at 25/1 because mental issues aside he has talent....
 
There's one now that travels with a goat, can't remember the horse, but I read that he goes to pieces if the goat isn't in the box with him.
 
Bayoffreedom said:
Thank you FM However, I am in a state of shock: he does not have any ulcers and seems absolutely fine. None of which explains his run, the fact he was distressed and could hardly walk and that he didn't want to go onto the track. I have written a fuller update in the blog: http://www.cheltenhamdream.com/blog-diary/2018/9/14/calling-any-and-all-horse-psychiatrists. It must be in his head but how do we get it out of his head??
If anyone has any ideas then please let me know - we are struggling to figure it all out.
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Trying to look on the Positive side B.o.F , It must be very good news that the Ulcers weren't to blame . Hopefully
something minor will come to light to explain things , and like the others have
said , maybe needs a travelling companion .
all the best , B.C.
 
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