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Kim Muir 2018

Could anyone request JO to own the winner on the Kim Muir?
Squat, Pendra .... If they don't think it through this might be a small edge?
 
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jono said:
. The remarks on him being a different horse this year and the fact we haven't seen him over his ideal conditions - 3 miles over fences means I think there's room to improve with what will likely be a mark close to or the same as his hurdles mark of 137. It would be a nice mark for this race, likely in the bottom half of the weights but enough to ensure he gets in.
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Current Irish mark is 137. He is running in the valuable novice handicap at Naas on Sunday.(2m4f)
 
Hope your right Jon that would be welcome good news
 
Well Tintern Theatre can not jump for toffee, so my 2pts @ 14s look down the pan, jumped poorly at every flight at the back and was not given a hard race.. if they could get him to jump I am sure it would be a good horse but thats a big IF..

Back to the drawing board on this race for me :(
 
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Bayoffreedom said:
Current Irish mark is 137. He is running in the valuable novice handicap at Naas on Sunday.(2m4f)
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Thanks BoF. I hadn't actually noticed he was entered up this weekend. Once again it's at a trip below 3 miles and having ran on this weekend last year, it doesn't come as a concern to be running this close to the festival.
 
jono said:
Another I like for this race - Sutton Manor 33/1 (Betfair) or 25/1 NRNB

I think there's...
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Sutton Manor ran absolutely no kind for race today (finished 6th). That's now 2 bad runs on the go however the points I made previously still pretty much stand - 2m4 today is not his trip, he was outpaced as I would have expected. Running off mark of 137 today he may get dropped a couple of pounds and he's not the kind of horse i'd expect Phil Smith to bump up much if any so you could be looking at him running off circa 135. (last 5 years the race has required 133, 134, 130, 132, 129 to get a run so should be fine still)

As I said over hurdles he ran off 142 in the Pertemps last year and finished the season on 137.
If nothing comes to light on the horse as in a setback or issue then today's showing hasn't had any negative effect for his chances in my eyes if he lines up here on the day.
 
jono said:
Sutton Manor ran absolutely no kind for race today (finished 6th). That's now 2 bad runs on the go however the points I made previously still pretty much stand - 2m4 today is not his trip, he was outpaced as I would have expected. Running off mark of 137 today he may get dropped a couple of pounds and he's not the kind of horse i'd expect Phil Smith to bump up much if any so you could be looking at him running off circa 135. (last 5 years the race has required 133, 134, 130, 132, 129 to get a run so should be fine still)

As I said over hurdles he ran off 142 in the Pertemps last year and finished the season on 137.
If nothing comes to light on the horse as in a setback or issue then today's showing hasn't had any negative effect for his chances in my eyes if he lines up here on the day.
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Would you have preferred a better run today, worse, or how he ran?
 
Kevloaf said:
Would you have preferred a better run today, worse, or how he ran?
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A better run ideally but all the positives and reasons that appealed before are still there and haven't changed, and if anything his mark may go down on the back of today. I'm always happy to allow for a bad run but when you get 2 in a row, it is a bit of a worry and he may just be out of form (he was in good form coming into the festival last year) but I feel like if he turns up theres enough reasons why he can run a much better race.

Bet365 have gone 33/1 after today understandably. Cash out is 0.9pt for 1pt so I've actually cashed out (1pt EW) and re-staked at the bigger returns. Betfair preview this Wednesday so hopefully he gets a mention then.
 
jono said:
A better run ideally but all the positives and reasons that appealed before are still there and haven't changed, and if anything his mark may go down on the back of today. I'm always happy to allow for a bad run but when you get 2 in a row, it is a bit of a worry and he may just be out of form (he was in good form coming into the festival last year) but I feel like if he turns up theres enough reasons why he can run a much better race.

Bet365 have gone 33/1 after today understandably. Cash out is 0.9pt for 1pt so I've actually cashed out (1pt EW) and re-staked at the bigger returns. Betfair preview this Wednesday so hopefully he gets a mention then.
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Thanks for that Jono, just done the very same thing
 
Squouateur - Kim Muir Handicap Chase: 6/1

The Kim Muir is the plan. He ran very well at Cheltenham last year and unseated Jamie [Codd] at the third last when going very well. His run at the Paddy Power at Christmas wouldn’t be good enough, he landed on top of a fence and it all just happened too quick for him. The Kim Muir is made for him. It’ll be either Jamie or Derek O’Connor taking the ride.



Not just for this race, but Elliott clearly spoken to both? Or JP a factor?
Anyone read anything in to that?
Or does he have another? Sutton Manor?
 
Always look at pipe horses in the Kim Muir... does anyone know if Dell Arca is a likely runner? Won a pertemps qualifier over the distance in good style earlier in the season, but has since reverted to chasing, given a real plot ride last time. A mark of 140 should be lovely for this
 
Robbante said:
Always look at pipe horses in the Kim Muir... does anyone know if Dell Arca is a likely runner? Won a pertemps qualifier over the distance in good style earlier in the season, but has since reverted to chasing, given a real plot ride last time. A mark of 140 should be lovely for this
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Hi Rob,
I think he goes Pertempts. Im watching his entries very closely.;)
 
doctorwu said:
Hi Rob,
I think he goes Pertempts. Im watching his entries very closely.;)
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They’re definitely up to something with him, form so inconsistent but clearly talented when the handbrake is off. Rated 145 over hurdles and 140 fences... if hurdles the plan not sure why they’d let him romp in by 5 lengths in that Newbury qualifier when already qualified... will keep an eye on him too
 
Robbante said:
They’re definitely up to something with him, form so inconsistent but clearly talented when the handbrake is off. Rated 145 over hurdles and 140 fences... if hurdles the plan not sure why they’d let him romp in by 5 lengths in that Newbury qualifier when already qualified... will keep an eye on him too
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Keep your eyes peeled Rob.
 
General Principle and Space Cadet. Has Gordon said anything about these two? I would like a few points before considering NRNB.
 
Katie Walsh booked to ride Sugar Baron for Henderson.

Hi Nicky, I’ve fancied SUGAR BARON for a while now for the Kim Muir, is that still the target?

Yes, that is very much the target and I have just booked Katie Walsh to ride.
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6th in the race last season off a mark of 135 (jockey claiming 3). Will be running off 137 this time.
The jockey isn't enough to tempt me at 16/1 best price but anyone fancy him?
 
jono said:
Katie Walsh booked to ride Sugar Baron for Henderson.



6th in the race last season off a mark of 135 (jockey claiming 3). Will be running off 137 this time.
The jockey isn't enough to tempt me at 16/1 best price but anyone fancy him?
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Did incredibly well to finish 6th last year. Looked beaten 5 out. Came from nowhere to come 6th like. Of course I backed him for the Scottish National after when he fell at the first. Scottish National could be on the agenda this year too..
 
jono said:
Katie Walsh booked to ride Sugar Baron for Henderson.



6th in the race last season off a mark of 135 (jockey claiming 3). Will be running off 137 this time.
The jockey isn't enough to tempt me at 16/1 best price but anyone fancy him?
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Katie Walsh on Sugar Baron... I assumed she'd be booked for Mall Dini....less likely he comes to this race now then?

I seem to remember reading in Hendo's blog that the Scottish NAtional was the target for Sugar BAron but he might take in the Kim Muir...

Would always prefer to back in the race I knew was the confirmed overall target...
 
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