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JLT Novices 2018

There must be an easier way on the eye to get that information on here :highly_amused:

If The Cap Fits out tomorrow too at Bangor, I didn't pick up the reason he missed his target last week?
 
Kevloaf said:
There must be an easier way on the eye to get that information on here :highly_amused:

If The Cap Fits out tomorrow too at Bangor, I didn't pick up the reason he missed his target last week?
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Ground was very soft/ heavy.
 
Yanworth falls on 2nd chase start, lets be honest, and I think a few said on here at the time, he was sketchy on debut, this will do his confidence no good at all, would now not be surprised if he is reverted back to hurdles, with maybe the stayers' in mind alongside UNWIMH for same connections.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Yanworth falls on 2nd chase start, lets be honest, and I think a few said on here at the time, he was sketchy on debut, this will do his confidence no good at all, would now not be surprised if he is reverted back to hurdles, with maybe the stayers' in mind alongside UNWIMH for same connections.
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Think that's a little harsh he jumped well in the main and he diddnt make a blunder of sorts he over jumped and went down on his nose. I was worried when I heard it, but far less worried when I watched it back.
 
Scooby91 said:
Think that's a little harsh he jumped well in the main and he diddnt make a blunder of sorts he over jumped and went down on his nose. I was worried when I heard it, but far less worried when I watched it back.
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Well, he won't be a horse that sees my money for any of the Novice Chases, put it that way :)
 
Almost looked like Yanworth jumped it too well. At least he's fine and seemed happy enough jumping the rest of the fences :)

The thing I don't really get is Geraghty pulling him back and going at the others' pace. I guess it's so he gets used to jumping in behind others but he's hardly going to be going that speed in the better races, so why not give him practice at the 'better race' pace? (i.e. make the running on him)
 
I haven't seen today's run but I wasn't mad keen on his debut over fences. He is a horse I want to take on in the spring.
 
I’ve topped up on Willoughby Court for this race as think he’s overpriced. Think there was a bit of an overreaction to his debut over fences, he jumped pretty well in the main, and he was squarely beaten first time out last year so at least he got the win this time. Seems to be a bit of a spring horse, and they’ve always thought very highly of him and his potential as a chaser. I think the form of his win last year was strong, he’ll only get better as the season progresses, and it’s now possible to think that the Arkle could end being the stronger race out of the two if Footpad and Finian’s turn up there
 
Sutton place is the standout bet in this race for me at current prices, can't wait to see him come out. 20/1 and bigger is a huge price and like robante said, this race starting to look not as strong as it did.
 
Scooby91 said:
Sutton place is the standout bet in this race for me at current prices, can't wait to see him come out. 20/1 and bigger is a huge price and like robante said, this race starting to look not as strong as it did.
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Really like Sutton Place also and been waiting to push the button on him. 12s with Hills any race might be the safe bet, I actually think he has the pace for the Arkle and think it will be that race or this one for him. JP obviously has Yanworth as well but I’d say he’ll run them both in the race they stand the best chance of winning. Who are JP’s arkle horses? Struggle to see one at first glance now Movewiththetimes is potentially going up in trip
 
Robante said:
Really like Sutton Place also and been waiting to push the button on him. 12s with Hills any race might be the safe bet, I actually think he has the pace for the Arkle and think it will be that race or this one for him. JP obviously has Yanworth as well but I’d say he’ll run them both in the race they stand the best chance of winning. Who are JP’s arkle horses? Struggle to see one at first glance now Movewiththetimes is potentially going up in trip
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Personally think movewiththetimes will end up in a handicap, I can't think of a jp arkle horse. Unless defi de seuil still went chasing. He often dosent mind running an outsider so poss landofhopeandglory the only logical runner I can think of.
Dark one but chirico vallis could improve for a fence they always talked of him as a chaser and he cost a few quid.

Any second now was also well though off last season
 
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Scooby91 said:
Personally think movewiththetimes will end up in a handicap, I can't think of a jp arkle horse. Unless defi de seuil still went chasing. He often dosent mind running an outsider so poss landofhopeandglory the only logical runner I can think of.
Dark one but chirico vallis could improve for a fence they always talked of him as a chaser and he cost a few quid.

Any second now was also well though off last season
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Yes he’s got plenty that could make up into fair horses for the race I guess. My thought about Sutton Place for the race is more that I think he was taking over 2 miles and had a really nice turn of foot. In a fast run Arkle you know he’s going to be staying on and he has the pace and class to go close I’d say. However, agree that the JLT more probable at this stage
 
Is Sutton Place Ok ?

When PU at Punchestown looked liked something serious amiss ?
 
mayo said:
Is Sutton Place Ok ?

When PU at Punchestown looked liked something serious amiss ?
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Was pulled up as a precaution and found to be lame, Gordon says he's fine now.
 
Dual Grade One winner Yanworth could tackle the Ladbrokes Novices' Chase at Newbury a week on Friday after crashing out on his latest run over fences.

Trainer Alan King has earmarked the Grade Two contest, better known as the Berkshire Novices' Chase, as a potential target for the seven-year-old.

After making a winning chasing debut at Exeter in October, the JP McManus-owned gelding fell on his return to the Devon track last week.

King said: "Yanworth seems fine and he cantered on Saturday morning. He didn't do a lot wrong at Exeter.

"We might well go for the two-and-a-half-mile Grade Two novice at Newbury a week on Friday. We are not going to wrap him up.

"Barry (Geraghty) was quite keen to go there, but I've not spoken to Frank (Berry, racing manager) or JP yet."
 
JP has got quite a few who would look to me to be ideal for this race now.
Yanworth
Modus
Sutton place
Movewiththetimes (may go the handicap route)
 
Benatar seems to be creeping under the radar in the novice chase markets. Had him at 66s for the RSA before his first run, but also topped up at 33s for that race and 33s for the JLT before his run today. His point form is good, and he's just a massive horse with similarly big engine who will only get better to my eye. He beat Keeper Hill 9 lengths just now, which is solid enough form. Any improvement and i'd back him to be threatening the places in whichever race he takes in at the festival
 
Scooby91 said:
Movewiththetimes (may go the handicap route)
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Somewhere else I said that this one was a handicapper, albeit a very good one, over hurdles and I expected the same over fences. On Friday's TV they said that the placed horses in his race often ran well in the Close Brothers Novice Handicap at the Festival so worth keeping an eye on both him and Coo Star Sivola to see if a mark is being organised.
 
archie said:
Somewhere else I said that this one was a handicapper, albeit a very good one, over hurdles and I expected the same over fences. On Friday's TV they said that the placed horses in his race often ran well in the Close Brothers Novice Handicap at the Festival so worth keeping an eye on both him and Coo Star Sivola to see if a mark is being organised.
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Good spot Archie , thank's for posting that , well worth knowing snippets of information like that.
 
archie said:
Somewhere else I said that this one was a handicapper, albeit a very good one, over hurdles and I expected the same over fences. On Friday's TV they said that the placed horses in his race often ran well in the Close Brothers Novice Handicap at the Festival so worth keeping an eye on both him and Coo Star Sivola to see if a mark is being organised.
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According to RP, Movewiththetimes already has a mark of 146 over fences which means they'll need to get him dropped 6lbs to be within the 140 ceiling of the Close Brothers handicap chase. I'm not sure they'll be able to achieve that given his performance on Friday so the only handicap option would be the Grand Annual or Festival Plate(?).
 
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