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archie said:
As much as I like my stats, I always think that they need some perspective. In 10 years, the number of boxes at Closutton has increased by about 50% and this is bound to affect 10 year stats. When Willie has horses turning up at Newton Abbot and Bangor, it doesn't seem likely that he will shy away from G1s at other UK tracks as long as he has enough suitable jockeys available.
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I wonder how long it'll be before a satellite UK operation is set up...
 
Yosser said:
The elephant in the room is the ground with Banbridge. I think he could run well in a KG but the chances of him having good ground in December I'd say are slim and JO'B won't run him in it again after last year. I've got him on the list for the Ryanair but in brackets next to his name it says (ignore until the week before)
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I've not checked this but I think you'd be surprised at how often the word 'good' has been in the description at Kempton on boxing day over the last 20 years... Rarely gets that testing at Kempton anyway or at least there's very few King George's in my memory that have been.
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The ground is a concern with most antepost bets. Turns up on the day on decent ground and he's probably not a 33/1 shot though I guess.
 
Istabraq said:
I wonder how long it'll be before a satellite UK operation is set up...
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Seeing him have runners in nothing races at Bangor/Fontwell/Uttoxeter etc is an indication to me he's going try train a winner at every UK / Irish Track.
 
Kevloaf said:
Yes interesting thoughts regarding GW
Quite tempted by a bit of a swing at Il Est Francais - I suppose I haven't got a price in my head that I thought he'd be.

Also not looked in to his record first time out to gauge whether I'd want to back him before that
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He'd definitely be my choice for the race as well Kev. He absolutely devoured the fences in the Kato Star and the track really suits his style of running. Can see him going off pretty short.
 
Re Banbridge....am I barking up the wrong tree or did they not say he needs to go LH as well as requiring faster conditions?? IMO he's one of the worst horses to back AP as there's too many 'ifs ' with him. He's definitely an on the day bet for any race he potentially targets.
 
Today's Galway winner The Wallpark (Gordon) is to be aimed at the Pertemps.
 
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Kevloaf said:
Gaelic Warrior for the King George if Willie does send one?

Il Est Francais a clear favourite though IMO ... not that it's worth backing this far out
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I really hope Il Est Francais wins his debut and makes the King George so that he can hold up the price of my strong fancy Fastorslow.

I know it was a fast time but what turned out to be a 4 runner race in last year's Kauto Star was a very poor race imo. Kilbeg King only 14l away in third does not frank the form.
 
Plenty of Blue @ Oddschecker for Dancing City in the Brown Advisory today .... anything been mentioned re Target ??.
 
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….thanks to whoever recommended the Barney Curley book, ‘The Sure Thing’. Lying on a sunbed in scorching hot Cyprus, it’s a terrific read.
 
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Eggs said:
….thanks to whoever recommended the Barney Curley book, ‘The Sure Thing’. Lying on a sunbed in scorching hot Cyprus, it’s a terrific read.
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I’m actually reading it myself at the minute. Though my location is a freezing cold east Belfast.
 
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YoungHustler said:
I really hope Il Est Francais wins his debut and makes the King George so that he can hold up the price of my strong fancy Fastorslow.

I know it was a fast time but what turned out to be a 4 runner race in last year's Kauto Star was a very poor race imo. Kilbeg King only 14l away in third does not frank the form.
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Have they committed Fastorslow for the King George? Or said it's an intended target

He'd be the one to beat on form

Wouldn't use the Kilbeg King 'only' 14L behind as particularly valid reasons to not like Il Est Francais myself but not debating the literal form as Fastorslow's is currently much further ahead...

Il Est Francais on the up and clearly suited by conditions is what's appealing... I assumed Fastorslow would stay in Ireland though, but happy to see otherwise and I'll re-assess
 
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Might be worth rolling them both up E/W with something like Teahupoo. If they both go, you would think one would win and one would get you some cheeky E/W skullduggery on the other.
 
Apologies if this has been explained previously but what is the argument for guests to be allowed to roam the forum? What would we lose if it were members only? Sounds like we have spies and rogue individuals here that affect the antepost market and the odds we can get so unless they add value would it be harsh to lock it down and only have vetted members?
 
John Durkan could be a very tasty race this year with Fastorslow, Galopin Des Champ and Fact or File all targeting the race. Might be that FOS gets beat in that and goes out in price for the KG ? Could go the other way though of course.
 
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Looks proper tasty

could be tactical as well, wouldn’t suprise me if they go easy with GDC’s and us it as a prep, and instead tune one of Mullins other ones to run a huge race

Appreciate It and Tornado Flyer have ran extremely well in this at bigger prices. Think I’d keep an eye on the second string for Mullins, something that doesn’t really have main target for the rest of the season and could be wound up to win this
 
BigChaang said:
Plenty of Blue @ Oddschecker for Dancing City in the Brown Advisory today .... anything been mentioned re Target ??.
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Something has been happening. Salvator Mundi has started to be clipped in for the Supreme and Gaelic Warrior is weak for about 6 bookies in the Ryanair. Galopin Des Champs also nudged out for the Gold Cup and Fastorslow strengthening
 
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