FJ Forum Monthly Yankees (Year 5)

[Middle_Of_March]

Back for the fifth year and aiming for profit once again.

If one of the mods could sticky this thread and take down the year 4 yankees from the sticky section, that would be great.

Thanks to everyone who gets involved with these. This is the year a big one lands. I can feel it.

March:
Jonbon - Arkle @ 10/1
Flooring Porter - Stayers Hurdle @ 5/1
The Nice Guy - Brown Advisory @ 8/1
Tellmesomethingirl - Mares Hurdle @ 8/1

Best odds - 5345/1
Bookmaker - Betway


April (Saxons Special):
The Nice Guy (Brown Advisory) - 5/1
Three Stipe Life (Turners) - 16/1
El Fabiolo (Arkle) - 10/1
Galopin Des Champs (Gold Cup) - 7/2

Best Odds - 5048/1
Bookmaker - Paddy Power/Betfair


May (Mullins):
Sir Gerhard - Turners @ 8/1
El Fabiolo - Arkle @ 10/1
Gaillard Du Mesnil - NH Chase @ 7/1
Allaho - Ryanair @ 7/4

Best odds - 2177/1
Bookmaker - Paddy Power/Betfair


June Yankee (In loving memory of Roger ‘Diamond Geezer’ Hunter):
Mighty Potter - Arkle @ 12/1
Brandy Love - Mares Hurdle @ 8/1
An Tobar - Ballymore @ 25/1
Allegorie De Vassy - Mares Chase @ 10/1

Best odds - 33,461/1
Bookmaker - Unibet


July Yankee:
Ahoy Senor - Gold Cup @ 8/1
Gentleman Du Mee - Champion Chase @ 14/1
Ash Tree Meadow - NH Chase @ 25/1
Redemption Day - Supreme @ 8/1

Best odds - 31,589/1
Bookmaker - Paddy Power


August Yankee (Each way):
Jet Powered (Supreme) at 16/1
Three Stripe Life (Turners) at 14/1
Langer Dan (Stayers Hurdle) at 25/1
Stattler (Gold Cup) at 16/1

Best Price - 127,737/1
Bookmaker - Ladbrokes


September Yankee (FJ 4 To Follow):
Chapeuau De Soleil (Champion Bumper) at 16/1
Lossiemouth (Triumph Hurdle) at 16/1
An Tobar (Ballymore) at 12/1
Journey With Me (Brown Advisory) at 25/1

Odds - 97,681/1
Bookamker - Bet365


October:
Might Potter (Turners) 10-1
King of Kingfield (CB) 7-1
Chemical Energy (NHC) 10-1
Old Victoria (TH) 40-1
American Mike (AB) 9-1

Prices with 365.

November:
Queens Brook MH 7-1
Shishkin 4-1 CC
Bob O 16-1 Stayers
Pink in the Park 33-1 MNH

Prices quoted with PP/BFSB. 23,119-1.

December:
- Lossiemouth (Triumph)
- Gaelic Warrior (Ballymore)
- Three Stripe Life (RSA)
- Did I Ask You That (Bumper)

January:
- Billaway (Foxhunters) 8/1
- Good Land (Ballymore) 12/1
- Favori De Champbou (Albert Bartlett) 12/1
- Fact To File (Champion Bumper) 20/1​

Best Odds - 31,940/1
Bookmaker - Paddy Power​


February:
- Lord Accord - Ultima
- Pembroke - County
- Fastorslow - Plate
- Stumptown - Kim Muir

Best odds - 9179/1
Bookmaker - Bet365​​

 

[Middle_Of_March]

March added

 

[Middle_Of_March]

April Yankee added.

Big thanks to Sax for his efforts on this pre and post Punchestown. I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say his input is very much appreciated.

 

[BigChaang]

April Yankee added.

Big thanks to Sax for his efforts on this pre and post Punchestown. I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say his input is very much appreciated.

Hear Hear , from Me. :loyal:.

 

[Eggs]

….MoM, you might want to consider Hills as the best firm for the August Yankee.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

….MoM, you might want to consider Hills as the best firm for the August Yankee.

Are they a better price? Oddschecker wasn’t showing them for whatever reason

 

[Eggs]

Are they a better price? Oddschecker wasn’t showing them for whatever reason

…yes, I think they’re quite a bit better & they are all on Oddschecker but there’s one typo.

If you look at Three Striped Life on Oddschecker it appears as if Hills aren’t quoted but they actually are a little further up @ 12-1 under ‘Three Strip Life’. So, Hills are 2 points shorter on that but 4 points bigger for Stattler and 8 points better for Langer.

Hills
Jet Powered 16-1
TSL 12-1
Langer 33-1
Stattler 20-1

i think the acca is 157,793-1.

i have just checked Hills & those prices are still accurate.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

September added

 

[Eggs]

…in MoM absence the October Yankee thread, mainly based on Down Royal entries is actually a Canadian;

Might Potter (Turners) 10-1
King of Kingfield (CB) 7-1
Chemical Energy (NHC) 10-1
Old Victoria (TH) 40-1
American Mike (AB) 9-1

Prices with 365.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

…in MoM absence the October Yankee thread, mainly based on Down Royal entries is actually a Canadian;

Might Potter (Turners) 10-1
King of Kingfield (CB) 7-1
Chemical Energy (NHC) 10-1
Old Victoria (TH) 40-1
American Mike (AB) 9-1

Prices with 365.

Thanks Eggs. Not like me to miss a Yankee deadline entirely but had a lot going on here to sort out. Much appreciated

 

[Eggs]

….November ‘one from each trainer’ Yankee courtesy of Captain @That Horse;

Queens Brook MH 7-1
Shishkin 4-1 CC
Bob O 16-1 Stayers
Pink in the Park 33-1 MNH

Prices quoted with PP/BFSB. 23,119-1.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

February added. Also added January as I realised I’d somehow not done so until now.

Not been a brilliant year for Yankees looking at what we’ve got to go but you could argue the May one for Mullins still has a fair crack of getting us a profit on the year again.

 

[Eggs]

….nice double today for the May Yankee goes some way to covering the lot.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Just the 48/1 and 87/1 doubles to make it yet another year of these Yankees making a profit.

If nobody objects, I’m happy going again for year 6

 

[Eggs]

Just the 48/1 and 87/1 doubles to make it yet another year of these Yankees making a profit.

If nobody objects, I’m happy going again for year 6

….I’m sure I speak for others in being delighted you’ll be facilitating these again. Won’t be long until the first.

 

[That Horse]

Just the 48/1 and 87/1 doubles to make it yet another year of these Yankees making a profit.

If nobody objects, I’m happy going again for year 6

Good to read you are up for running these again :encouragement:.

I wonder though could we do something different for at least the summer months - June, July, August?
We don't have that much info at that stage compared to later in the year unless someone has heard something from inside one of the stables.

​​​​​​I was reading Saxon Warrior 's recent point in his diary about doing less Cheltenham multiples antepost and trying to get a Cheltenham fancy doubled with something winning from earlier in the year, in essence a roll up going into Cheltenham.

We could do likewise for those summer Yankees where info is thin on the ground but where we can use either the big summer flat/jumps festivals for perhaps two selections and add them to two Cheltenham 2024 selections to make a Yankee.

The ideal scenario would be we have two winners/places locked in already before Cheltenham even starts.

We can then revert back to four Cheltenham picks from September onwards if need be, or keep using this 2+2 format if we manage to have any success with it, as there's various others national hunt meetings we can use in the run up to find winners.

I know it's changing what we've always done but sometimes it's at least worth asking the question and see what people think.
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We also need to be wary for the Gordon Elliott Yankee in November as he changed up his methods in 2022 where his weren't firing on all cylinders at that meeting. Envoi Allen was the only Down Royal winner to win at Cheltenham, with Magical Zoe, Letsbeclearaboutit, Mighty Potter, Conflated and Pied Piper placing. So it isn't just Gordon using that meeting now for his horses, may need to consider likes of Henry and Gavin.

Happy to hear what other people think :encouragement:

 

[Saxon Warrior]

Great idea That Horse

Very similar to what I do through the summer

The form of horses and knowledge of those races, opponents etc is so much easier for me to get a handle on than 4 Festival Winners in a multi in June Or July with race specific targets known for each

 

[Mighty]

Great idea That Horse

Very similar to what I do through the summer

The form of horses and knowledge of those races, opponents etc is so much easier for me to get a handle on than 4 Festival Winners in a multi in June Or July with race specific targets known for each

Personally I would find this hugely valuable. My knowledge of flat racing is marginal, but I’d appreciate the education, would be a bit of fun, and would definitely help get some of the horses I want to in the book before the prices start to erode over the summer.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Good to read you are up for running these again :encouragement:.

I wonder though could we do something different for at least the summer months - June, July, August?
We don't have that much info at that stage compared to later in the year unless someone has heard something from inside one of the stables.

​​​​​​I was reading Saxon Warrior 's recent point in his diary about doing less Cheltenham multiples antepost and trying to get a Cheltenham fancy doubled with something winning from earlier in the year, in essence a roll up going into Cheltenham.

We could do likewise for those summer Yankees where info is thin on the ground but where we can use either the big summer flat/jumps festivals for perhaps two selections and add them to two Cheltenham 2024 selections to make a Yankee.

The ideal scenario would be we have two winners/places locked in already before Cheltenham even starts.

We can then revert back to four Cheltenham picks from September onwards if need be, or keep using this 2+2 format if we manage to have any success with it, as there's various others national hunt meetings we can use in the run up to find winners.

I know it's changing what we've always done but sometimes it's at least worth asking the question and see what people think.
--
We also need to be wary for the Gordon Elliott Yankee in November as he changed up his methods in 2022 where his weren't firing on all cylinders at that meeting. Envoi Allen was the only Down Royal winner to win at Cheltenham, with Magical Zoe, Letsbeclearaboutit, Mighty Potter, Conflated and Pied Piper placing. So it isn't just Gordon using that meeting now for his horses, may need to consider likes of Henry and Gavin.

Happy to hear what other people think :encouragement:

That sounds good to me for at least one of the summer months when, as you rightly say, there is very little to go on and I have to be somewhat inventive for that months theme.

 

[Eggs]

….I suggest we keep the Yankees through the summer. It’s not a case of one or the other, if That Horse suggestion is popular, then we can introduce it as an additional service.