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Bapaume all the rage for the ERSG Arkle, as short as 3's now, was 8's.
Got the Bapaume and Honey double at 19/1 - just hope they both turn up.
Bapaume all the rage for the ERSG Arkle, as short as 3's now, was 8's.
Big weekend coming up.
And some antepost bets are going to be looking very handsome (David Beckham like) on Sunday evening.
And some antepost bets are going to luck very ugly (Iain Dowie like) on Sunday evening.
Might be worth waiting for Final declarations but I'd be interested to hear peoples thoughts on who's gonna be a Beckham and who's gonna be a Dowie after the weekend
Who's going to enhance there Cheltenham prospects and who's going to reduce there chances ?
I'll wait till Final declarations and put my thoughts down.
Happy to put my first Dowie down now, before declarations. And Jockey bookings.
Bapaume - arkle
No fucking way.
Smacks of tipsters searching for value in what's perceived to be a weak division.
Smacks of Mullins trying to convert a horse with no natural speed into an arkle horse as the only one he's got that hasn't blotted his copybook is Cash Back who would have started the season in his reserve squad.
If Laurina had won the 2 miler at Christmas I guarantee Bapaume would not be running back over this trip.
And Melon would have been kept at 2 miles also had he not got beat by a four year old first time up.
And Tornado Flyer would have been running here had he not been exposed as not that good.
If they thought Bapaume would be suited to an arkle over fences they'd have known that in the Summer, nothing he's done has shown he's an arkle type, except for what others in the stable have not done.
Bapaume may jump well enough. but you've got to have gears as well, and this horse has just the one gear.
The race he won was full of stayers and he didn't exactly stretch away from them, and they missed a few fences out on the run in too.
Definite Dowie for me.
Could look a right twat if he wins at weekend.:highly_amused:
Big weekend coming up.
And some antepost bets are going to be looking very handsome (David Beckham like) on Sunday evening.
And some antepost bets are going to luck very ugly (Iain Dowie like) on Sunday evening.
Might be worth waiting for Final declarations but I'd be interested to hear peoples thoughts on who's gonna be a Beckham and who's gonna be a Dowie after the weekend
Who's going to enhance there Cheltenham prospects and who's going to reduce there chances ?
I'll wait till Final declarations and put my thoughts down.
Totally agree with you here.. Can't believe theres money coming for him this weekend and he could be close to jt fav if it keeps going as it is. Notebooks form this season is faultless and yet people think he will blow out for one reason or another
First Beckham before decs too.
Honeysuckle - Irish champion hurdle
Quite simply, she has one rival in this, and that's Sharjah.
Hopefully the Henry Whittler Bromhead don't pull her out cos the water isn't the same as rain.
The race at the weekend is perfect for her as she can sit behind Petit Mouchoir and then take it up at the second last or just after. The speed I think she has should make it very difficult for Sharjah to do what Sharjah does and his challenge will probably be over before it's began.
I've had 8pts at 7/4 already after apples was declared for the galmoy. But will have more on the day with one of the specials for how many lengths she wins by. At least 5l but maybe more.
I'm assuming apples jade won't run. As that would upset the apple cart a little in terms of pace and shape of the race.
The only horse that Notebook has beaten of any note ( :highly_amused: ) is Fakir and most people on here don’t expect him to be a serious player in this. The day after he finished tailed off in last year’s Ballymore, Bapaume finished close up in one of the best Stayers that we’ve had for a while, despite not seeing it out. His previous festival appearance saw him being placed in Defi’s Triumph. He may only have one gear but for me it’s a higher gear than Notebook is capable of producing.
Christ. Have you got her in a double for the CH too then? If she steams this what odds for the CH? 6s to 3/1 fav?
To be fair the reason why some like bapaume for the arkle is because its trained by mullins, lets have it right its shown nothing over 2 miles and shown nothing to say its a better nag then notebook
To be fair the reason why some like bapaume for the arkle is because its trained by mullins, lets have it right its shown nothing over 2 miles and shown nothing to say its a better nag then notebook
Everyone’s entitled to their view - I’ve already stated on a few posts why I like Bapaume & backed him accordingly when he was healthy double figures. I do however think that the Mullins factor does have to be brought into it somewhere as the yard has so much talent to gauge against, it won’t all be hype. Sure, there’s a bit of a snowball effect on his price this week & he’s shorter now than his bare form says he should be but there are some stats that keep on producing over & over again that are not just fluke.
1) Top rated hurdler going over fences. Whilst Notebook looks a different horse over the larger obstacles, his hurdle rating & previous Cheltenham run do still leave a question mark. Fakirs weight for age & last time out ride also shouldn’t be forgotten
2) Mullins at Cheltenham & in the Arkle. The way he gets them to peak is better than anyone, that has to factored in whether you like him or loathe him.
This horse Bapaume reminds me so much of My Way De Solzen & Footpad to a lesser extent in that he was just short of top class over further over hurdles 155 plus & will have the ability to pop away tracking the leaders over a fast run 2 miles, ultimately outstaying his rivals - I’m more than ok to be wrong & cant speak for all but I’m certainly not just backing because of the Mullins factor BUT it shouldn’t just be dismissed either IMO
To be fair the reason why some like bapaume for the arkle is because its trained by mullins, lets have it right its shown nothing over 2 miles and shown nothing to say its a better nag then notebook
To be fair, you can make a case (albeit a weak one) through Dunvegan that Cash Back could put up a real challenge to Notebook. However all the money for the DRF 2m Chase is coming for Bapaume. Does this mean the stable know he is much better than Cash Back over just 2m??
Well said but see you’re not called SplinterBoy for nothing :highly_amused: