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Cheltenham Bumper 2019

Hurricane fly said:
Envoi Allen entered up this weekend in a race won by Rapid Escape last year
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Previous Years
2017*Rapid Escape 4 11-11 Ms Lisa O'Neill 2/5Fav (Gordon Elliott)*
2016*Samcro 4 11-8 Mr J J Codd 1/3Fav (Gordon Elliott)*
2015*Death Duty 4 11-8 Ms N Carberry 5/4Fav (Gordon Elliott)*
2014*Bordini 4 11-8 Mr P W Mullins 4/7Fav (W P Mullins)*
2013*Fine Rightly 5 12-0 Mr S Crawford 5/1 (S R B Crawford)*
2012*Union Dues 4 11-11 Mr P W Mullins 3/1 (W P Mullins)*
2011*Don Cossack 4 11-11 Ms N Carberry 4/6Fav (Gordon Elliott)*
2010*Abandoned
 
Think we can assume what next year's early Ballymore favourite will be then.
 
Any chance they take him to Cheltenham after the injury to Malone Road? They normally keep the best one at home..
 
TheRowebot said:
Any chance they take him to Cheltenham after the injury to Malone Road? They normally keep the best one at home..
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Have a feeling that MR might still make it to the festival tbh. He's not been written off judging by the exchange market, and still being matched between 8.2 & 9.

Will be touch & go for him, but don't think EA will turn up either way myself.
 
Backed Midnight Run in the listed bumper tomorrow at Navan and for this at 33’s.
 
SeanRock said:
Backed Midnight Run in the listed bumper tomorrow at Navan and for this at 33’s.
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That's a bold shout, a giggingstown horse for the champion bumper.
Any reason particularly?
The 2nd poker dainay was beaten 60L on his next start by one of Giggis lesser horses.
 
I'm still intrigued that their seems to be continued money for Malone Road on the exchanges. Upon the news of his injury he was out to 9.8 on the exchanges but has quietly kept coming back in and now only 8.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I'm still intrigued that their seems to be continued money for Malone Road on the exchanges. Upon the news of his injury he was out to 9.8 on the exchanges but has quietly kept coming back in and now only 8.
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Have noticed the same CoD, I do wonder quite how he managed to get this knee injury, during or just after his last race? Is it too conspiratorial to ask if the injury has been how shall we say it, a little exaggerated?
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Have noticed the same CoD, I do wonder quite how he managed to get this knee injury, during or just after his last race? Is it too conspiratorial to ask if the injury has been how shall we say it, a little exaggerated?
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From memory I think it was always put forward as a 'minor' injury, but just how 'minor' was it. I still have a feeling we could see MR at the festival, time will tell now though.
 
Kevloaf said:
Still 50s on 365 for anyone not already at the party.

Word of warning though ... I've backed this horse and I've literally never had any returns of any kind from the bumper.

So good luck with this project :highly_amused:
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Scooby91 said:
That's a bold shout, a giggingstown horse for the champion bumper.
Any reason particularly?
The 2nd poker dainay was beaten 60L on his next start by one of Giggis lesser horses.
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I know the form of his Galway win hasn’t worked out well but I thought he was visually impressive showing a lovely change of pace turning for home. Joseph O’Brien had mentioned the Champion Bumper as a target before Gigginstown purchased him privately (after his Galway win). Taking a chance with the bet365 cushion that the O’Learys will allow Joseph to continue with plans. He’s a full brother to Carefully Selected so you know he’s going to stay well and in recent years the Champion Bumper has suited those types.
 
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“Jamie said he couldn’t pull him up after the race. He’s a big raw horse. He might not be a Cheltenham bumper horse this year but he’s a horse for the future. He’ll probably have one more run this season but it probably won’t be in Cheltenham."
@gelliott_racing
- Envoi Allen.
 
“He’s still only learning, and Jamie said he couldn’t pull him up after the race. He’s a big raw horse, and we like him,” said Elliott.

“He might not be a Cheltenham bumper horse this year, but he’s a horse for the future. He’ll probably have one more run this season, but it probably won’t be in Cheltenham.

“Malone Road probably won’t make Cheltenham the way things are going, but maybe Punchestown. It’s not career threatening, but it’s holding us up.

“When you miss six or eight weeks this time of the year, unfortunately that’s what happens.”
 
Even if Envoi was to go to Cheltenham, I'm just not sure about him. Can't put my finger on it but wouldn't be backing him at short prices even NRNB. Just doesn't get the pulse racing like Malone Road did. I remain hopeful that MR will make the festival. As he was always going straight there I wonder whether his injury has been exaggerated to just stop the constant questions about him that Gordon was having to field. And - as has been mentioned in this thread - he's still being backed for this.
 
TheRowebot said:
“He’s still only learning, and Jamie said he couldn’t pull him up after the race. He’s a big raw horse, and we like him,” said Elliott.

“He might not be a Cheltenham bumper horse this year, but he’s a horse for the future. He’ll probably have one more run this season, but it probably won’t be in Cheltenham.

“Malone Road probably won’t make Cheltenham the way things are going, but maybe Punchestown. It’s not career threatening, but it’s holding us up.

“When you miss six or eight weeks this time of the year, unfortunately that’s what happens.”
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Dosent sound good for Malone rd. But as a backer a shred of hope is better than none.
 
Mt Leinster pulled hard the whole race. I think Malone Road was flattered.
 
Seeking advice...
How likely do we think Envoi Allen will turn up?
I've quite a bit on a 33s and he is currently sitting at 5s with my cash out looking fairly juicy..

With all the comments coming from codd and Elliot it does look like he'll skip the festival, but surely with the same owners as Malone Road, if MR misses chelt then surely EA will be considered?

I really dunno what to do.....
 
Gilly said:
Seeking advice...
How likely do we think Envoi Allen will turn up?
I've quite a bit on a 33s and he is currently sitting at 5s with my cash out looking fairly juicy..

With all the comments coming from codd and Elliot it does look like he'll skip the festival, but surely with the same owners as Malone Road, if MR misses chelt then surely EA will be considered?

I really dunno what to do.....
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I cashed out.

I don't expect him to run. Elliott doesn't usually change his mind and he's said he is one for next season. I don't think Malone Road changes things and I don't think the owners are in it for "short-term wins" (So they won't just run Envoi Allen if it isn't right for the horse just to make up for MR being injured).

If comments start changing regarding him running then in the New Year, when NRNB is available, I'd consider putting the "profit" I've cashed out, on him win only. I think it's unlikely I'd do that though
 
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