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Cheltenham 2026 Prices

The new lion will probably go off around evens for the champion after he wins at newcastle/kempton. 4/1 is good value, weak division
 
Benjy23 said:
Would've played the related double of Lossie Champion Hurdle and Woodoh Mares if I could have got the latter included at 8s
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I still think the related double Lossie CH with both Wodhooh and JDV is value ( both 29/1) as Lossiemouth’s price for the CH is bigger than her actual chance of winning the race IMO, probably due to what happened last year.

Once the stable tours come out and Willie confirms the plan for Lossiemouth this year (I think the plan will be CH as her rating plus mares allowance puts her a pound behind State Man and clear of Cons HIll and the novices) then the price will be cut IMO to 3/1 - 7/2 for CH and as a result both Wodhooh and JDV will be cut for the Mares, as their respective chances will greatly improve if Lossie goes for the CH. my guess would be that the odds for the double will reduce to around half of what they are now, should Lossie be confirmed as targeting the CH.

With regard to the CH then lets not forget that Lossiemouth is still only 6, has very good Cheltenham form and is the same age as The New Lion. State Man will be 9 next year and although not showing any decline, will have to beat the younger age trend for Festival winners.
 
BigL said:
Only way Lossie goes for the champion hurdle is if it is soft/heavy, shes not a two miler
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You could say the same of The New Lion as last season he didn’t race over less than 2 1/2 miles.

Lossiemouth did try the 2m trip last year, wasn’t beaten too far by Cons HIll and went for the easier race at the Festival being only 6 years old and the trainer/jockey having State Man in the CH
 
Wayward Lad said:
You could say the same of The New Lion as last season he didn’t race over less than 2 1/2 miles.

Lossiemouth did try the 2m trip last year, wasn’t beaten too far by Cons HIll and went for the easier race at the Festival being only 6 years old and the trainer/jockey having State Man in the CH
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But what other races can the new lion run in ? he's not going to go up to 3 miles
 
BigL said:
The new lion will probably go off around evens for the champion after he wins at newcastle/kempton. 4/1 is good value, weak division
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You can understand why Barry Connell wants to have a crack at the Champion Hurdle with William Munny, given how the division is looking.

25's a stand out price for him. For me, personally, I think the Supreme was better than the Turners, and coupled with the The New Lions price for the CH I'd say WM's price is very generous.
 
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Sounds like Jonbon going out in trip won't be happening much, if at all.

Shloer Chase then onto the Tingle Creek are current plans according to Josh Stacey!

If he fares well in both of them I don't think they'd be going out in trip. 16/1 with a small 'bookmaker' but generally 12/1 shot, can't see that lasting, not with the less than positive noise coming out about Sir Gino.

Nicky also came out and said he won't be running Jango Baie over 2m ever again!
 
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ComplyOrDie said:
Sounds like Jonbon going out in trip won't be happening much, if at all.

Shloer Chase then onto the Tingle Creek are current plans according to Josh Stacey!

If he fares well in both of them I don't think they'd be going out in trip. 16/1 with a small 'bookmaker' but generally 12/1 shot, can't see that lasting, not with the less than positive noise coming out about Sir Gino.

Nicky also came out and said he won't be running Jango Baie over 2m ever again!
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Yep, Nicky said the same of Jonbon at his open day. I will definitely not be touching him for the CC or any other Cheltenham festival race. Just doesn't happen there for him unfortunately.
 
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Lobos said:
Have any price you want on her if Lossiemouth turns up again. That's the conundrum.
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That’s not the way to look at it though when placing a bet. The question is do you believe Woodoh has a better chance of winning the Mares Hurdle than the 8-1 odds suggest? If so, then it is a good bet, irrespective of who you think will win.
 
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Cheltenham Novice Chase said:
That’s not the way to look at it though when placing a bet. The question is do you believe Woodoh has a better chance of winning the Mares Hurdle than the 8-1 odds suggest? If so, then it is a good bet, irrespective of who you think will win.
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My answer is the same....no, if Lossiemouth runs in it again which, sadly , I think she will. 8/1 may be a decent EW play if you think she goes for the Mares. A few have mentioned the Stayers for her
 
Lobos said:
My answer is the same....no, if Lossiemouth runs in it again which, sadly , I think she will. 8/1 may be a decent EW play if you think she goes for the Mares. A few have mentioned the Stayers for her
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So what percentage chance would you give Lossiemouth, right now, of winning the Mares Hurdle? i only ask because I’m trying to convert that to odds so I can understand your position better.
 
I would say that if the Mares Hurdle was ran tomorrow with the horses at the top of the market in it the odds would be around Lossiemouth 8/11, Woodhoh 15/8, Jade De Grugy 7/2

The Brown Advisory is the race i am paying the most attention to this year. Final Demand is outrageously short for a horse that has never jumped a fence in public and a horse that i also suspect needs a good dig in the ground. He looked very flat footed in the Turners on good ground. I think he needs it a bit softer than that. The longer trip will obviously help with that but at 5/2, he can have it and i will take a loss. Even Forty Coats who was running on well into 4th at 150/1 i would consider as an each way bet before i backed Final Demand at 5/2.
 
Yosser said:
I would say that if the Mares Hurdle was ran tomorrow with the horses at the top of the market in it the odds would be around Lossiemouth 8/11, Woodhoh 15/8, Jade De Grugy 7/2

The Brown Advisory is the race i am paying the most attention to this year. Final Demand is outrageously short for a horse that has never jumped a fence in public and a horse that i also suspect needs a good dig in the ground. He looked very flat footed in the Turners on good ground. I think he needs it a bit softer than that. The longer trip will obviously help with that but at 5/2, he can have it and i will take a loss. Even Forty Coats who was running on well into 4th at 150/1 i would consider as an each way bet before i backed Final Demand at 5/2.
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No chance will Lossie go off as big as 8/11

Be closer to 1/2 imo

She is dynamite at Cheltenham
 
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I would say that if the Mares Hurdle was ran tomorrow with the horses at the top of the market in it the odds would be around Lossiemouth 8/11, Woodhoh 15/8, Jade De Grugy 7/2

The Brown Advisory is the race i am paying the most attention to this year. Final Demand is outrageously short for a horse that has never jumped a fence in public and a horse that i also suspect needs a good dig in the ground. He looked very flat footed in the Turners on good ground. I think he needs it a bit softer than that. The longer trip will obviously help with that but at 5/2, he can have it and i will take a loss. Even Forty Coats who was running on well into 4th at 150/1 i would consider as an each way bet before i backed Final Demand at 5/2.
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Absolutely agree Lobos re Final Demand

Great chance on hurdles form, but hasn’t jumped a fence in public yet and @ 5/2 is shocking value……..the upshot though is that the 5/2 takes 29% of the book, so logically there should be value elsewhere……we have just got to find it!🤔

Could Forty Coats be a Lecky Watson this year?…..what did Lecky do over hurdles the year before last years BANC?……probably was way down the order in Mullins yard for novice chasers at the beginning of the year?
 
Lobos said:
My answer is the same....no, if Lossiemouth runs in it again which, sadly , I think she will. 8/1 may be a decent EW play if you think she goes for the Mares. A few have mentioned the Stayers for her
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I am in the other camp that says Lossie will run in the CH this year, or at least that will be the plan……until it isn’t!

IMO when Willie confirms the CH plan in the stable tours the 5/1 will be long gone and will be around 3/1 or shorter

She will only be 7 at next years Festival (the same age as The New Lion) and IMO only has two horses to beat……TNL and State Man

State Man will be 9 next year and the last 9 year old to win the CH was Hurricane Fly in 2013, so trends suggest the 7 year old Lossie, who is only a pound off top hurdle rating (inc Mares allowance) should have a great chance. The handicapper believes she is 7lbs better than TNL over 2 1/2 miles (inc Mares allowance) at the start of this season. Could Lossie improve by a few pounds with another year on her back?….. could State Man regress a tad being 9?

Another reason I believe she will run in the CH this year is that Willie has a pretty good stand in for the Mares race with JDV. Not saying that JDV will beat Wodhooh, but he did say at the end of last year that JDV may stay over hurdles this year.

It’s whether you believe that Lossie will go the Quevega route and will win the next couple of years Mares hurdles, or that she may be better and can cut it in open company in the CH this year……..Annie Power comes to mind, so that’s why I am in the CH camp for now 😀
 
Lobos said:
Agree. She'd go off no bigger than 4/9. 4/1 Ba
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Lobos said:
Agree. She'd go off no bigger than 4/9. 4/1 Bar
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I’d say there very little chance Wodhooh who’s unbeaten Cheltenham goes off anywhere near 4/1.

She had an interrupted year in 2024 only running twice. With a clear run at this season she’ll go very close in the mares even with Lossie in the lineup.

But fwiw I think her connections won’t shirk the Champion Hurdle again. Wouldn’t be surprised to see her start off in the Morgiana for a change. The Hattons Grace run had her half asleep for the first half of her Kempton race.
 
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