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Cheltenham 2018 Ante post bets

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1 Cause Of Causes Cross Country Chase(Win And Each Way) 14/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 10.00 To Run
2 Apple's Jade Mares Hurdle (Win And Each Way) 13/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 4.00 To Run
3 Yanworth JLT Novices Chase(Win And Each Way) 15/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 11.00 To Run
4 Samcro Neptune Novices Hurdle (Win And Each Way) 14/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 17.00 To Run
5 Douvan Cheltenham Gold Cup (Win And Each Way) 16/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 13.00 To Run
6 Un De Sceaux Ryanair Chase (Win And Each Way) 15/03/2018 3 Places 1/4 Odds 6.00 To Run
 
Not too positive in a view of the Triple Crown.

No, which is a shame for my antepost having 4pts on him for the triple crown.
The more I think about it the more I think Sizing John may throw the spanner in the works for him running in the Betfair.

Looking back at recent winners and how they went into the race:

Cue Card - prep run at Exeter - Haldon Gold Cup or Wetherby - Charlie Hall Chase (start of Nov)
Silviniaco Conti - prep run at Wetherby - Charlie Hall Chase (start of Nov)
Kauto Star - prep run at Aintree - Old Roan Chase (end of Oct)
Imperial Commander - no prep, straight there.

I had initially thought they would go straight for the Betfair Chase but based on past winners/runners it seems like a prep run is usually used beforehand. If Nicky can get a prep run into Might Bite before hand I think the chances of him running at Haydock are better, as I cannot imagine they'd want to be taking on the Gold Cup winner on their first run of the season (even second perhaps), as much as I trust his ability and think he would still most likely win it's a risky and brave move for his run over fences outside of Novice company. Last thing he'll want is a really tough race or even worse a fall or mishap which could dent his confidence (and we've heard how important confidence is with MB with Henderson talking about this numerous times over the last few seasons). Particularly if that could dent his King George chances which is the main aim early doors.
 
Thanks for posting those Jono. I might top up my bet on American for the Hennessy after reading that.

I just had a panic because I couldn't find the odds. Forgot they've changed the name!

I will be making my first ever trip to Newbury for this race.

:encouragement:

I added : 1pt EW on American
followed by : 1pt American and Might Bite (King George) double at 101/1
 
Hi Guys,

Been a while since I posted, after Aintree I pretty much slow down on the betting front and start all over again about this sort of time with the build up to Cheltenham. Hope you're all well.

MTOY (50/1 AP) aside it was a very tough Cheltenham festival for myself, as I'm sure it was for many, and I have decided to approach this one a tad more cautiously, however, some of the early talk on here has got me licking my lips already and, whilst I haven't had any early AP bets I don't think they are far away.

Some of you on here are making great claims for a few, one I really like is Nichols Canyon for the stayers' like many have said on here already. I can't really see past him, after that performance back in March. I think Cheltenham suits him more so than his following defeat by UKWIMH, and expect him to make it back to back Stayers' titles.

The only bet I have had so far in any race is the X-Country, backing split stakes both COC (9/1) & JO (10/1), connections are not afraid to run 2 of their horses against each other as we saw this year, so backing both using split stakes seems like the sensible option for now, however I am likely to back COC in any multiples I do as feel he is the more solid proposition of the 2.

I think the Champion Hurdle is likely to be a split stakes (60/40 ratio) job for me too, I can't see Buveur D'air losing to much, BUT, 'IF' Faugheen turns up (it's a big ask) sound then I in no way can ignore him either! 4/1 & 8/1 respectively, it may not break the bank, but i'm confident I'd be on the winner if both ran!

Supreme & Neptune Novices I currently don't have any major views on, though Getabird for the latter race makes appeal currently, and interesting to see Annamix mentioned as have seen some other views on this one that it is highly thought of, but it's Mullins bingo again so won't be investing heavily at this current stage.

Not even entertaining the Novice Chase races yet, some exciting and talented prospects but they need to jump a fence first!

Altior for the QMCC, can't see Douvan staying at 2m, and I have this niggly doubt that he'll even stay over fences, no idea why, but back of my mind something is telling me to not bother with him currently.

The Ryainair I am really hoping VVM goes for, feel like they've wasted enough time with her over hurdles, as good as she is, but she's a brilliant jumper over fences and deserves her crack at it IMO.

I think Fayonagh should go for the Mares' Novices hurdle over the Supreme too, think this is her best chance of winning a race (provided she can jump a hurdle well enough).

The Gold Cup is currently wide open, top 4 or 5 in the market I currently can't split, but personally I'd love Might Bite to go and do the business, though I feel he is likely to win the King George then struggle in this, but I'm hoping he can do the double, or even the triple crown ;-)

That's basically where I am at, though I'm going to struggle following over the winter as I'm travelling for 2 months in Australia, fingers crossed the Wi-Fi is good!!!
 
First post here but been reading for while and certainly getting some useful advice...

Its nearly October so first ante post bets struck:

BVD 2pts WIN 4-1 B365
CoC 2Pts WIN 9-1 B365

Been mentioned countless times in the thread already. But for me (and many others) look the standout horses for their price and target at the moment. Finians Oscar is another I'm already tempted by, Arkle or JLT....That's the conundrum!

Will keep posting throughout the season ahead, looking forward to it! :)
 
Welcome back CoD :encouragement:

On the Stayers hurdle: I was surprised that Nichols Canyon is 2 years younger than UNWIMH - NC seems to have been around for an age. The 7/1 looks huge when you consider he's defending champ, trained by WPM, ridden by Ruby, will only be 8 yrs old and doesn't have any question marks around his festival target.

I'm going to have to start chipping away at NC, or at least start putting him in some multiples.


Welcome Innoko :very_drunk:
 
I have been chipping away at the 9/1 on COC over last few months. Have a nice return and still loading whilst at 9s on 365! I also think the stayers will be another good battle between NC and UKWIMH.
 
Welcome back CoD. Welcome Innoko.

I am so excited - has anyone else come home to the RUK "magazine"... there is an interview with Ruby Walsh in with 5 stories for the season... I will pick out some key quotes for anyone that hasn't got it...

First bit he talks about the Gold Cup.... "open year", "isn't a stand out yet and one might not emerge because of the depth". "God willing, Djakadam will line up in March and try and emulate The Fellow, who was second twice and fourth before winning the Gold Cup at his 4th attempt, while Yorkhill will also be in the shake-up for top honours and always performs at Cheltenham"

Secondly - "The flawless Altior against a rejuvanted Douvan will be some head to head. We might have to wait until trhe Champion Chase at Cheltenham as both horses cvould remain at home in England and IReland respectively - but it'll be worth the wait." goes on to say ""The bookies have Altior as the favourite at the time of writing, but I wouldn't want to swap Douvan"

Third thing was about Faugheen. "I really respect Buveur D'air", "The likes of Labaik and Melon might stake a claim but they are not up to Fauugheen's level, I think he's one hell of a horse"

The other two bits weren't as exciting... talking about the Trainers and Jockeys championships....

I will post these in each individual thread actually for discussion..... I AM GOING TO BURST
 
Those nice people at Skybet have been giving me a free fiver every week since March and I've had every fiver of Auvergnat for the Cross Country and now have a half decent position.
Have to say when I started I wasn't expecting CoC to run in this, as a triple winner at the festival I thought they'd set their sights higher and he really does look the one they all have to beat, however, Auvergnat showed much promise in his debut banks season especially when winning the PP Hogan and a year stronger can improve, but CoC a massive runner...
 
Those nice people at Skybet have been giving me a free fiver every week since March and I've had every fiver of Auvergnat for the Cross Country and now have a half decent position.
Have to say when I started I wasn't expecting CoC to run in this, as a triple winner at the festival I thought they'd set their sights higher and he really does look the one they all have to beat, however, Auvergnat showed much promise in his debut banks season especially when winning the PP Hogan and a year stronger can improve, but CoC a massive runner...

I've asked B365 to add Auvergnaut to their XC market, without any luck. They are the only firm who are offering 1/4 odds ew terms of those that have priced it up. Auvergnaut is definitely over priced at 16/1!
 
Those nice people at Skybet have been giving me a free fiver every week since March and I've had every fiver of Auvergnat for the Cross Country and now have a half decent position.
Have to say when I started I wasn't expecting CoC to run in this, as a triple winner at the festival I thought they'd set their sights higher and he really does look the one they all have to beat, however, Auvergnat showed much promise in his debut banks season especially when winning the PP Hogan and a year stronger can improve, but CoC a massive runner...

Can't disagree, I have Auvergnat noted to back at 16s each way in the near future... i haven't yet as Josies Orders is in the same yard and I am wishfully thinking Enda might release something to give me a clue where JO is up to. That was the banker of the festival around this time last year :highly_amused:

I just loaded my spread sheet of bets and then when I see Cause of Causes at 9/1 I feel stupid not backing it AGAIN.
 
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Obviously we want every horse to get to March fit, healthy and at the top of their game, but last years Gold Cup proved that fancied runners can have difficulty making the engagement, should the same issues exist this season I can see CoC being re-routed to Friday and a stab at the big GC/National double.
There just wouldn't be any sense passing up the opportunity to have a shot in the big one in my mind...
 
'As it stands@ 9-1 CoC is too big in my eyes. Hence the ante post bet.

Of course things could change and horses could injure themselves causing them to miss engagements at Cheltenham. But I can't place an ante post bet thinking that will be the case. At this present time he will surely defend his crown.

Fingers crossed all horses stay safe and sound for the coming season, the GC would be a cracker!
 
I know some of you will disagree ! , but with regard to Might Bite going for the triple crown or not .
I have a decent A.post bet on m.b. for the Chelt gold cup , and personally i wouldn't be
too worried if he didn,t tackle the big three races , Nicky H is the man , so i think if he's
serious about the gold cup , i could see him swerving it (the triple ).
 
I agree BC, he's clearly a volatile character and a temperament like that could create problems, he'll be handled with gloves and well looked after.
I think he's a certainty to go to Kempton but he could easily swerve Haddock...
 
Yes i think that the King george at Kempton will definitely be pencilled in for him.
 
Love Might Bite too BC, hoping everything runs smoothly in the build up to the Gold Cup, also believe he will go on and win the King George, which in turn currently makes him a great trading price for the GC, as he won't be 8/1 after the King George!
 
Does the £1m bonus count towards the NH trainers title?
 
One jump ahead has arrived. Annamix and Samcro both make his 40 to follow.